<p>besides, when applicants begin to apply based on prestige alone, then the whole feel of the school changes. having friends at yale and princeton and having visited them many times, i can safely say that the atmosphere at columbia is so much more relaxed. people are much nicer and just generally less toolish</p>
<p>I agree, that's what attracted me in the first place - everyone at columbia just seemed to take themselves much less seriously. but that doesn't mean i wouldn't like the university to see it get its due, have its financial capabilities match that of its peers (who CU trails significantly), etc. in many ways it is unique in a way that its peers are not, and I share bollinger's view that the university's potential is still largely untapped.</p>
<p>Applications will likely start declining at Columbia and all American universities because the demographic tidal wave of echo-boomers/Gen-Y/Millennials/make your own buzzword for children born from 1982-1999 when the Baby Boomers had kids--peaks, and starts tapering off this year.</p>
<p>Even if they don't decline, they will certainly stop rising so precipitously.</p>
<p>So don't worry, it has nothing to do with Columbia ;)</p>
<p>If my family was rich and powerful, I would definitely go to Harvard and skate by with all C's and take on a prestigious position, like the presidency.</p>
<p>Hey guyz, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Columbia has recieved the most Nobel Prizes in the United States... and second only to Oxford in the world... :) Then again I may be wrong</p>
<p>Columbia needs to launch a PR campaign specifically targeted towards Indian families. I swear, barely any Indian people I know even associate Columbia with the Ivy League. But then again, maybe that's just because I live in Texas.</p>
<p>im indian and i asscoiate columbia with the ivy league. well maybe its cuz i live in queens and go to school in the bronx. and columbia is basically a 30 min subway ride away from me. i wont get in though.</p>
<p>Columbia is VERY well known in China, as well as Cornell but nobody really knows about Dartmouth....I told my neighbor I was applying there and she was like "which school? where? in South Africa, Canada or Australia?" ......it also annoys me when they think Bowdoin is a new store from US or Williams is a person...
FYI: I go to this IB school in Shanghai...</p>
<p>Internationals tend to base reputation on graduate schools since that research (i.e. grad work) is what gets universities international recognition. Also, international schools have much less of a distinction between the quality of grad schools. The notion of an "undergrad" focused college is a US construct, that's why places like Berkeley are thought of so highly by internationals yet places like amherst, Dartmouth, and Brown are not as well known. But for those staying in the US those undergrad focused schools have incredible resources for students and very powerful reputations.</p>
<p>I don't think anyone where I live has heard of Columbia except me, the old people from New York (I live in Florida so there are many), a couple friends of mine, and two science teachers I have from Long Island. I'm sure the vast majority of my school thinks Notre Dame is a better college.</p>
<p>Personally, I heard about Columbia for the first time while reading Jeffrey Sach's The End of Poverty though.</p>