Columbia Chances

<p>I don't even know why I am doing this.</p>

<p>GPA:93
Sophomore Year Classes: Honors Chemistry, Honors Trig, Intel Research
Junior Year Classes: Honors Physics, Honors English, Intel Research
Senior Year Classes: A.P Psychology, A.P Calculus AB, A.P Biology, A.P Microeconmics, A.P English Language and Composition, Linear Algebra and Differential Equations, Intel Research</p>

<p>Organism Biology at a local community college</p>

<p>ACT-34
SAT II's- BIO M-710 (freshman year)
U.S History-750
Math IIC-800
SAT- Expecting a 2200</p>

<p>AWARDS- Distinguished Key Clubber Award</p>

<p>EC's- Freshman Year- Pre-med club
Sophomore Year-Chess Club, Go club
Junior Year- Key club ( served as a commitee head)
Senior Year- Key Club(comittee head), Simulation Corp Club, Pre-med
Club, Go club,Chess Club</p>

<p>Work Expierence: Summer job at hospital
Four Year Dental Internship
American Lung Association Internship</p>

<p>200 hours of volunteering</p>

<p>intel project</p>

<p>Honestly, it's very, very unlikely.</p>

<p>chances are that low?</p>

<p>Unimpressive GPA, average scores, easy courseload through junior year (it appears), mediocre EC's, and an award that they'll laugh at. But still, write a good essay, and you never know.</p>

<p>I disagree. Good chance.</p>

<p>Decent chance...</p>

<p>Work on:</p>

<p>GPA, ECs and your essay. Make sure your teachers love you.</p>

<p>You can apply to Columbia General Studies, which is exactly same degree as Columbia Collge Degree.</p>

<p>Poxpox, PLEASE figure out what you're saying. GS isn't any easier to get into and isn't even geared towards people planning to go to university right after graduating high school.</p>

<p>Hopeful:</p>

<p>You look like you're pretty much ready to go pre-med. I say you have a very small chance.</p>

<p>"GS isn't any easier to get into.."</p>

<p>Are you kidding me?</p>

<p>a 93 is considered quite good in our school btw. Its not some crappy little school no one has ever heard about.
Would being in the Columbia Science Honors Program or S-PREP at Columbia help?</p>

<p>From the looks of your courseload, I'm going to take a wild guess and say you took one of the hardest ones. Nobody in their right mind would load up on APs their senior year if a) they weren't prepared, or b) it was the only option offered by the school. Many schools only offer the most advanced classes senior year.</p>

<p>edit: Yeah, Bronx Science... not really something to laugh at in my opinion. My cousins go there and I think, as a sophmore, the only AP class available is APUSH? Maybe it's junior year.</p>

<p>First you make this thread on every Ivy forum as if there were no distinctions between them (an Ivy is an Ivy, right? It's not like they're seperate institutions with their own strengths and weaknesses or anything), and now this:</p>

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<p>I hope you don't end up at my school.</p>

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<p>No</p>

<p>General Studies isn't some easier backdoor entrance into Columbia. They need the same test scores, GPA requirements and essays as CC. You also don't apply to this school when you graduate as an undergrad.</p>

<p>Your weaknesses are really in your ECs and interests. No college is going to say, oh this kid looks like he really wants to get into med school from everything he's done for the last four years. Unless you can find something unique to write about your hospital experiences, I suggest you don't apply to Columbia but apply to some of the combined M.D. programs that are offered like at USC.</p>

<p>Wait... so the massive differences in "quality" of the student body and hence the admission rate between GS and CC mean nothing?</p>

<p>Differences in quality? What differences? They take the same classes, are subject to the same teacher and are doing pretty much the same thing. Hell, the tuition is pretty much the same too. Only difference is that less GS people go to Carman on weekends and get trashed.</p>

<p>What massive difference in quality? Have you even met a GS student?</p>

<p>The students each school caters to, are different, and therefore so are the admission standards. </p>

<p>Admission rate is a funny thing. It depends on the number of people admitted and on the number of applicants. The number of students that could handle the courseload at a school like Columbia and the number of students willing to go through the radical change of going back to school diminishes greatly as the years pass. In other words, not many 29 year olds are willing or able to make the sacrifices necessary to attend GS. The home address for the typical GS student is not the same as his parents'.</p>

<p>If the number of people applying to GS were to increase by ten-fold tomorrow, the admission rate would decrease by a factor of 10. The fact that GS has a higher admit rate only indicates that not very many people are applying for the spots available.</p>

<p>Once you get to Columbia, you will find that most GS students are highly accomplished in some aspect of their lives. In my UW class there was someone who had been in several Hollywood movies and indie films. When he first enrolled in college he attended a highly reputable engineering school (as a pure engineering school, it has a higher rank than SEAS) but decided to pause his academic studies just so he could pursue acting.</p>

<p>But as with anything, there are the exceptional cases and also the not-so-exceptional. Just like in CC, just like everywhere else.</p>

<p>I'm procrastinating. Back to writing my paper.</p>

<p>I think a lot is riding on your essay and recs. Your GPA isn't stellar (it's good, but not great-remember, you're competing against hundreds of 4.0s) and your ECs are scattered. I guess it also depends on what school you go to because most offer APs sophomore/junior year and you didn't take any until senior year. If your recs are awesome and you write an awesome essay, you have a shot though, but it's definitely far from a sure thing.</p>

<p>Edison High School (Magnet School in poor Urban Area--recognized as one of top schools in country)
White Male
High-ish income but will request financial aid
Interested in: Social Sciences, Humanities, maybe math (basically everything except for science)</p>

<p>ACADEMICS
Rank: like 6/500 (top 2%)
GPA U/W: 3.86
GPA W: 4.29
Most rigorous load taken at HS--more APs than any other HS junior
Only one B (AP Chem, which isn't a junior course anyway)</p>

<p>APs
9th: Human Geo (5)
10th: Euro (5), Bio (5), French Lang (5)
11th: (to be taken) English Lang, Chem, Calc AB, Microecon, Macroecon, USH, Psych
12th: (to be taken) Eng Lit, Calc BC, Enviro, Comp Gov, US Gov, Stats?, French Lit</p>

<p>SAT
(not yet taken--June '06)</p>

<p>SAT2
Bio: 690
French: 760
Took USH and Math today...prob got like a 730 on us and a 760 on math</p>

<p>PSAT
230: 80 M, 78 W, 72 CR
(national merit semifinalist)</p>

<p>ACTIVITIES
--Forensics (Speech and Debate): definitely my favorite activity. i put more effort into it than any other extracurricular, and a lot of times it supersedes my class assignments.
I do: Policy Debate (1st alternate to nationals 2 years in row, league champs, valley champs, #8 in state our first year, #8 second year, cleared at invitational tournaments, various speaker awards)
Extemporaneous Speaking (awards at tournaments, state qualifier and national tournament participant)
plus some other speech events</p>

<p>--KEY Club: Sophomore year Pres, Jr year VP, Senior year Pres
have organized activities at abuse shelters, soup kitchens, and cultural centers, plus fundraisers; also got "spirit award" for division, lol</p>

<p>--Mock Trial (Freshman-Senior): pretrial and trial attorney</p>

<p>--Model UN: various awards, 8th grade-12th</p>

<p>--BackTalk (10-12): the local newspaper I wrote for--has a Sunday circulation of 300,000. paid job</p>

<p>--Tennis: JV 9-10, Varsity 11-12</p>

<p>Other activities: Link Crew, CSF, Human Relations Council, Jewish Youth Group (officer soph year)</p>

<p>Summer Programs:
10: Journalism Program at CSU Fresno
Debate Camp at Michigan State University</p>

<p>11: (hopefully) Dartmouth Debate Institute</p>

<p>Awards: not very many...mainly stuff for debate. Also, got awards for my nonfiction writing at the Young Writers Conference</p>

<p>Chances?</p>

<p>Don't hijack someone else's thread.</p>

<p>HAhahahahah what a disgustingly blatant hijacking.</p>