<p>I agree, the challenge part isn't very advanced math, it just takes a lot of extra thinking and time to work it out, especially without a calculator.</p>
<p>I don't know what to take for the spring semester...maybe a physics course? any suggestions?</p>
<p>Intro to Psych...it was a pretty interesting class since it was my first psych class ever, so we went over some pretty basic stuff. What are you in now?</p>
<p>Hey! I applied as a freshman (to start the program sophomore year) but I'm a senior now. I didn't think the test was that hard, but then again, I just skipped over all questions that I hadn't learned yet. I'm pretty sure they take into account your grade and classes taken when they look at your test scores. The math wasn't that hard (from what I remember) and the science is broken up into sections that apply to each branch (earth science, bio, chem, physics).</p>
<p>Math IC is basically Math B (I took them both the same year). </p>
<p>the entry test is not hard at all! I'm not even THAT good at math and I thought it was ridiculoulsly easy. I have no idea why the acceptance rate is so low....I think some high schools make all their kids take it or something.</p>
<p>My son qualified last year as a freshman (he's a sophomore now, and is taking Gabe's class on Chaos Theory etc.). He thought the test was fairly simple, but he's good at problem-solving, so didn't have difficulty with the challenge math. He had only completed Geometry and Algebra I at the time, so had had no advanced math coursework, and had only completed Biology, not yet Chemistry. He felt he made a few "educated guesses" in some of the Science areas he hadn't yet studied--they must have been good guesses!There have been other students at his school that didn't qualify as sophomores, but did as juniors.</p>
<p>I'm in SHP too. The only difficult part was the last math section, which had problems kinda like difficult math olympiads. There's really no way to study. The science is really easy.</p>
<p>i take quantum mechanics this semester and it's impossible. i'm in physics C and Calc BC and the guy teaches it with linear algebra. I suggest not doing that unless you're insane</p>
<p>Haha, thanks for the tip...I was planning on taking quantum mechanics in the spring semester because I take physics C and Calc BC too. Is it taught by a professor or a grad student?</p>
<p>note: what WILL help you on the test is to leave out all of the questions you have no clue to, because you still earn points for questions left blank, but not for wrong questions. maybe that's why so many people do poorly. i'm sure it helped me.</p>
<p>it's taught by a grad student. i figured it would be a sort of basic course that wasn't math intensive and introduced a group of high school students basics. yesterday he said to us, "i assume all of you have had some experience with the relativity eqations." dude, i know e=mc^2 and how to calculate velocity. a friend of mine is in chaos and says it's really good though -- it all depends on the teacher. i think i'll be taking a bio class next sem though.</p>
<p>I've heard the Chaos class is good...I just don't want to sit there every Saturday morning and be completely boggled out of my mind. Hmm we still have some time to decide so when they mail us the course selections I'll take some time to think it over :)</p>
<p>I take the Chaos class, and it's pretty boring in that the teacher covers a lot of stuff the vast majority of us haven't learned, but exciting at the same time. It's heavily math oriented, and if you have not enrolled in both an calculus and physics class or have not taken them already, you won't be able to follow.</p>
<p>As for getting into the program, I applied last year as a sophomore, so I'm in the program as a junior. Freshman can also apply, but I didn't know that before. The first two sections of the test (science and math1) are really basic and general. The "challenge" math section is just 20 questions that require a bit more thinking, but really aren't that difficult. Personally, I think much of the selection process is based on your transcript and teacher recommendations, and that the test is just there to verify this information.</p>