<p>I am trying to learn. In a separate thread it has been but forward that a Barnard education is a Columbia education, that the schools are in fact interchangeable. Is this the case and would graduate schools and employers also take the position that they are the same school? Thanks.</p>
<p>They're affiliated and closely related. i'd say it's tougher to get into columbia, i'm sure some barnard students would disagree, but the stats of the entering classes seem to indicate this. barnard students are eligible to take columbia courses and vice versa (there might be some exceptions, i don't know). barnard and columbia take part in the same extra curricular activities. But i'd hardly say the educations are interchangeable. Barnard, is an all girls school; while you don't only interact with girls, you predominantly do so; so wonder if you are prepared for/want this. your residential life especially is predominantly girls, which makes it different from going to an only girls high school. barnard has distribution requirements, columbia has the core, again big difference in education philosophy, this too should be a big factor in deciding where to apply. As for grad schools and employers, i really don't know how they view the two, perhaps some alumnus/alumna on this board can help, but my feeling is that they wouldn't treat the two as equals, they offer different educations, and take different people. it's also tougher to get into columbia imo, which should say something about the level of competition. Classes overlap, but barnard students take most classes at barnard, and columbia students take most classes at columbia. (i've met a few barnard girls taking mainly columbia classes, but only a few). they're both good schools, similar opportunities available.</p>
<p>there are many threads about this listed in the helpful threads post, please check that</p>
<p>Barnard ≠ Columbia</p>
<p>I cannot say this more vehemently.</p>
<p>Don't use Barnard/Columbia interchangeably. They are not the same. </p>
<p>Graduate Schools and employers know this as well, to answer your question.</p>
<p>They are pretty much entirely different experiences from what I've gathered so far. Just because you think you might like one doesn't mean that you'll like the other.</p>
<p>Don't the Barnard girls show up as Columbia on Facebook?</p>
<p>And isn't Facebook more or less the arbiter of reality?</p>
<p>What is reality? What is truth? What is the Matrix? Where'd my spoon go?</p>
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<p>LOLOL</p>
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Don't the Barnard girls show up as Columbia on Facebook?
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<p>And don't a lot of the fat chicks you know show up on Facebook having pictures that disguise the fact that they are fat?</p>
<p>To answer your question, JohnnyK: yes, Barnard students join Facebook as members of the Columbia University network as they have both Barnard.edu and Columbia.edu e-mail addresses. Barnard does not have a Facebook network and, since Barnard students and Columbia College students are in classes together (both on the Barnard and Columbia campuses), this makes networking for both academic and, of course, social purposes easier.</p>
<p>This does NOT mean that educational experiences for Barnard and Columbia College or SEAS students will be the same. The most obvious differences can be found between the Columbia Core and the Barnard "Nine Ways of Knowing". There are, of course, other differences in advising, housing options, (though Columbia students can and do live in Barnard housing and vice-versa), and the fact that Barnard is an institution for women is significant. </p>
<p>There have been both informative and inflammatory threads about this question on this board...please read them with discretion! And I suggest you hop over to the Barnard board if you have more specific questions about Barnard's programs, etc.</p>
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And don't a lot of the fat chicks you know show up on Facebook having pictures that disguise the fact that they are fat?
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<p>LOL </p>
<p>don't you just HATE that!</p>
<p><em>Sigh</em>
<em>Memories</em></p>
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Barnard, is an all girls school; while you don't only interact with girls, you predominantly do so; so wonder if you are prepared for/want this. your residential life especially is predominantly girls, which makes it different from going to an only girls high school.
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Ummm, Barnard dorms have no restrictions on visitors, so while it is true that the first year dorms are all-women and most of the other dorms are predominantly women - there are plenty of male visitors in the dorms, and the dorms in the quad have co-ed bathrooms as well as women-only bathrooms to accommodate visitors. It seemed like every time I called my d. last year I heard male voices in the background; I know that she made as many new male friends as new female friends. </p>
<p>Yes -- Barnard is a women's college, but it is a very small women's college located on a physically small co-ed campus in a huge co-ed city. I think that who one "interacts" with depends more on what the students interests and preferences are. If you want to meet men, then it makes sense to participate in Columbia student groups & activities; if you prefer the company of women, you could focus more on Barnard-centered activities. </p>
<p>Barnard students can really take classes wherever they want. On average, Barnard students take about 1/3 of their classes at Columbia, and -- again on average, classes at the Barnard campus tend to consist of about 2/3 Barnard students, 1/3 Columbia students. My d. takes at least one class every day, 5-days a week, at Columbia.</p>
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<p>Friday classes? What a sucker.</p>
<p>Foreign language, but it seems to be an easy A for her so it works out o.k.</p>
<p>Touche. Good for you calmom.</p>
<p>I successfully avoided Friday classes, but only because I was SEAS. The only things really held on Friday are foreign-language classes and science labs. And maybe a recitation here or there, but that's rare.</p>
<p>I'm hoping it's not a 9am Friday class.</p>
<p>Actually, a 9am Friday class would be better -- then you are out early and have the rest of the day. </p>
<p>I think for my daughter, after a summer spent with a full time job (yes, Fridays too) -- the whole Friday thing has become a non-issue.</p>
<p>"Actually, a 9am Friday class would be better -- then you are out early and have the rest of the day."</p>
<p>hands down it's better to be out the previous night :D. but yea friday morning classes can be lived with.</p>
<p>What does one do at 10:15am on a Friday, once you're done with your 9am class and have "the rest of the day"? Go back to bed? I'd personally take a 1pm Friday over a 9am Friday.</p>
<p>Well, it depends on your personal inclinations. My d. is never at a loss as to what to do with her day, but she does often leave town on weekends and likes to be able to get an early start. The class she does have is mid-day in any case -- I was just commenting that I think she would rather have it be earlier. The main complaint she has voiced to me this semester is the fact that her class schedule makes it difficult to schedule enough hours at her work study job.</p>