When was the last time you were in Morningside heights? Because as I mentioned yesterday it is an enormously pleasant place to live full of families and wonderful places to be. It seems clear that you are not a city person but these few acts of violence certainly don’t make NYC a place to avoid for college, and the benefits that it has are extraordinary.
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No one is glibly explaining away anything, except for you when it comes to crime in non-urban areas.
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My relationship with Morningside Heights was answered elsewhere in this thread.
I do enjoy cities. I have listed cities I enjoy abroad and domestic.
Let’s move on from parsing statistics and debating where NYC ranks compared to other cities.
As an applicant, if you don’t want to go to Columbia or UChicago or fill-in-the-blank, don’t go - assuming you get in.
As a parent, see the paragraph above.
But don’t expect that any amount of pontificating will change anyone else’s mind.
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That is the crux of the issue, which some posters choose to ignore. The overall murder rate is irrelevant to my own safety if people like me, doing things I regularly do, are not the victims. If we are the victims, then assuring me that at least other places have a higher rate of mafia or gang deaths doesn’t impress me. I care foremost about my personal safety.
I was last in Morningside Heights last weekend. Not my cup of tea, but sincerely glad some like it there. And equally sad that talented young Columbia students have been killed there.
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Reading this entire thread - I just can’t help but think this young man wanted to part of the Columbia community and also was a valued member of the community and dragging the city and school he chose to live/attend comes across as disrespecting him and his family. He is lost in this thread full of debate.
He was killed in a random act of violence and the nonstop debate on crime rates, your love or dislike of Morningside Heights and commenting that kids and parents should think twice before sending their child to this school or NYC (paraphrasing) is not helpful - someone died, it is horrible and I hope we honor this young man by reading the original post with Davide’s personal website.
Campus violence and the increase, lack of etc should be another thread and not a conversation to be had in this space - obviously just my opinion.
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I just mentioned the news of this PhD student being killed on my parents’ group facebook yesterday, and also had comments on CC about Chicago international students killed not long time ago. I asked all parents on my group facebook to keep reminding our kids that safety is the number 1 priority. My kid is attending a university in NYC, where is also considered not a safe area. So what I told my kid is not going out after sunset, not taking the subway, always have a group of friends going to Manhattan together. My kid enjoyed a lot of nice areas in NYC. Prayers for all students in NYC!
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Interesting that the same murder rate in North Dakota and a this neighborhood can evoke such different reactions. The former is apparently of no concern, while the latter is incredibly frightening and threatening. Despite the horrific nature of this particular murder, most of the murders in either place are not random attacks on strangers, so that can’t be it. What else could it be, I wonder?
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Nor would they tolerate school shootings. But Americans generally don’t care about what foreigners think and don’t generally believe that perhaps they could learn from other countries. But I digress…
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Totally
This is good parenting, rather than say morningside heights is rainbows and sunshine and über pleasant. Reality with accompanying steps to ensure safety is the best bet
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I’m scratching my head as to why that shouldn’t be the final word in this debate?
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Closing.
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