Columbia SEAS vs. Stanford vs. UPenn SEAS

<p>Hey, I was recently accepted into UPenn (SEAS not Wharton) in West Philly, Columbia SEAS in NYC and Stanford University in Palo Alto, CA. As an Undergrad, I should add. I received a full financial aid packaged from all schools, so money is not the issue. I was born and raised in Long Island, NY so Columbia is close to home. However Stanford and Columbia have both been my dream schools for the longest time. I will be majoring in Operations Research: Financial Engineering at Columbia, or in Mathematical & Computational Science at Stanford University, or Systems Marketing Engineering at UPenn, and I will probably try and double major in Finance/Economics at whichever school I end up at. My goal is to finish my Undergraduate and work as a Quantitative Analyst, in a top firm, preferably in NYC. And eventually go back to school to earn my MS: Financial Engineering, and even my MBA. Currently I am faced with a huge dilemma and cannot decide where to go for my undergrad degree. I love Columbia, Stanford, and Penn, all are extremely prestigious schools, with gorgeous campuses in great areas. </p>

<p>Which schools are better recognized/recruited for my field/major/job?
Which choice would make it easier for me to find a job, and eventually lead to better success for me?
Which school would easier place me in a top graduate school? (HYPSMC)
Which school is more fun or vice/versa more stressful?
Where would you go in this situation?
And any other input, opinions, stats, facts, or just statements you'd like to add or share?</p>

<p>Thank you all in advance for reading my post, and hopefully helping me reach my final decision. </p>

<p>(I was also accepted to Brown, CMU, NYU-Stern, UC-Berkely, and Georgia Tech...If anyone thinks those schools would be better suited for me over my first 3 options)</p>

<p>I strongly recommend Columbia SEAS because they are the only university to offer financial engineering at the undergrad level. It’s location in NYC will give you access to many top internships that will enhance your prospects of pursuing a masters in FE later on. (I am the same guy who sent you an email btw). Congratulations on getting in!</p>

<p>Which school out of the three would probably be the best party school?? </p>

<p>Anyone with any info please help?:/</p>

<p>stanford’s probably the best party school. you’ll no doubt have fun at penn and columbia, but from what i hear stanford’s party scene is on a different level. job placement will be dope at whichever of the three, though i think probably the best at columbia b/c of location in nyc and its history as a feeder to top firms in nyc.</p>

<p>for me, the decision would be between stanford and columbia, no offense to penn - just not my style. i won’t lie it would be difficult for me to choose between the two, even though i applied ED to columbia. you can’t possibly go wrong with either one for the reasons you’ve listed. if i were you, i’d leave the decision up to where you’d rather be day-to-day: NYC or sunny california. both fantastic, just totally different.</p>

<p>And thats the problem, i cant decide where id rather be. I just wanna go wheres better for me. and where there will be less stress and more fun. i dont wanna fail out columbia/penn because its all work and no play.</p>

<p>you’ll definitely have fun at columbia. from all the people i’ve known who’ve gone there, they’ve told me there’s a tried and true work hard play hard mentality. that being said, i will concede that stanford is probably more fun in the classic college sense, given the campus life with parties etc. but columbia still has parties and whatnot + all of nyc… </p>

<p>just two different ballparks.</p>

<p>Thanks for all your input…I have made my decision, I am going to columbia!</p>

<p>Just kidding, I really cannot decide, no matter where i set my heart on I want to go to the other place…please help me out guys?</p>

<p>I have the same decision to make (minus Penn, which I didn’t apply to). </p>

<p>I think I’m leaning more towards Columbia at the moment.</p>

<p>For which major? and why columbia over stanford?</p>

<p>I’m a CC 2012 student going into finance, so take my opinion for what it’s worth. In regards to your statement, “My goal is to finish my Undergraduate and work as a Quantitative Analyst, in a top firm, preferably in NYC,” I would say Columbia gives a slightly higher chance for you to fulfill that goal. I’ll characterize the two schools from what I know.</p>

<p>Columbia
Go to SEAS, apply to be an FE major, get a 3.8+ GPA and you can go anywhere you want (Goldman, JPM, etc), especially for a quant position, because 3.8+ FE major cannot be beat. It basically means you’re a genius, or at least very smart. The possibility of speaking and meeting with people in your profession also increases because of your presence in NYC. However, simply being in NYC does not mean you WILL get the job or even take advantage of these opportunities. It depends on your tenacity and willingness to leave the “Columbia bubble.” Some people do it and some people don’t. Don’t think the school’s location will automatically help you. But yes, it is true, being in NYC leaves endless possibilities, so you gotta push yourself. </p>

<p>Also, many students in the Northeast tend to stay in the Northeast, because it becomes easy to live here. First, your Columbia friends will likely live in NYC and will want jobs in NYC. Second, you’ll build an “ivy network” (mostly with Harvard/Yale/Penn probably, and maybe Cornell) after four years, and upon graduation, these ivy friends in addition to your Columbia friends will want to live in NYC. Given your interests, these friends of yours will likely pursue finance/consulting (which are best in NYC). Stanford students, on the other hand, tend to stay in CA because 1) their network is there 2) the Stanford culture pushes people toward entrepreneurship (trust me, wherever you decide, your preferred career will be hugely influenced by your peers. Columbia = easy NYC finance/consulting, Stanford = easy VC/finance/consulting in SF).</p>

<p>Stanford
I can’t speak to the academics at Stanford, but I shared with you traditional paths at Columbia in contrast to what I’ve heard is the culture at Stanford. </p>

<h2>In terms of fun, Stanford is probably more fun. It’s got more land, more space and chances to party underage (really, here at Columbia, no one will throw a big party in their single or double-- it’s impossible. Only senior dorms have space to throw large parties, and as a freshman, you would probably prefer to hang with other freshman. On the other hand, many bars surround Columbia, but you gotta be 21+, have a fake id, or use a real id of someone else.) The culture at Stanford is just laid back. People at Columbia can be high-strung. Columbia follows the “work-hard, play-hard” mentality quite strongly.</h2>

<p>In short, if you want a larger network in the NE upon graduation and want to work in finance, I’d def go to Columbia. If you want to stay in CA, def go to Stanford. Stanford can also provide opportunities in NYC finance, it’s just that many Stanford students either choose to stay in CA (i.e. VC/ibanking/consulting in SF) or prefer careers other than finance/consulting (i.e. VC ). Note, however, that NYC finance is regarded better than finance anywhere else. To conclude further, wherever you choose, you must work hard. If you work hard, you’ll be able to go anywhere and do anything you want. You’ll begin to realize that no one can decide what’s best for you. In HS parents always know what’s best, but in college and soon thereafter, only you can decide, because there’s no predetermined trajectory for the life of an ivy undergraduate student. You gotta make your own. Best of luck!</p>

<p>Oh and def don’t go to Penn SEAS. Only Wharton is worth attending over Columbia SEAS / Stanford, although Penn is considered the party (read: frat & general drinking) ivy. Yale’s fun too.</p>

<p>Thanks for your input! It really helped me understand a lot…now I’m Just afraid That because Columbia’s campus is in the city. I wont get the true expierience of college life. One that I would probably get at Stanford:(</p>

<p>Sent from my SGH-T959 using CC App</p>

<p>Have you decided? If not, you should also ask this question on the Stanford and Penn forum.</p>

<p>Hav u decided??? Stanford is GORGEOUS but Paly is kinda a quietish town w/ lots of pretension. And it’s kinda an expensive town to live in…just saying. Of course, the bay area has perfect weather…don’t expect it to be hot very often tho it’s mostly sunny like 60s/70s but w/ cool wind…it has no seasons! That’s so amazing tho u got into all thos schools im jealous!</p>