Columbia USNWR 2008, #10

Colleges and Universities A-Z Columbia University
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<p>According to a somewhat reliable post on xoxoth, our beloved Columbia University will be (drop) to #10 this year-- which is more or less in line with what it usually is. It is a little surprising though that even with an increase in endowment, publicity (due to several large donations/Nobel wins), and a record-tying low acceptance rate that Dartmouth has managed to pull ahead. On another note, Duke is finally moving out of the Top4, somewhere IMO that it has no place being. In any case, these are the supposed rankings. </p>

<li>Princeton University </li>
<li>Yale University </li>
<li>Harvard University </li>
<li>California Institute of Technology </li>
<li>Stanford University </li>
<li>MIT </li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania </li>
<li>Duke University </li>
<li>Dartmouth College </li>
<li><p>Columbia University </p></li>
<li><p>Cornell University </p></li>
<li><p>University of Chicago </p></li>
<li><p>Washington University in St. Louis </p></li>
<li><p>Northwestern University </p></li>
<li><p>Johns Hopkins University</p></li>
</ol>

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<p><em>shrug</em> Who really cares. The quality of education you can receive from those schools is practically the same.</p>

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<p>What happened to Brown? It's getting sunk every time.</p>

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<p>Oh yea sorry about that--- Brown is #16 right after JHU. But it's closing in on Vanderbuilt territory...
IMO Brown is unjustifiably getting owned.</p>

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<p>I honestly don't understand these rankings. Brown is a top institution that's getting owned by Cornell? When Cornell comes out on top of any other Ivy, you know something is wrong? That's in the context of undergraduate education. I know Cornell is amazing for graduate education, but Brown, is one that you can't really beat for undergrad.</p>

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<p>Hopefully lots of prospective applicants will be deterred by its #10 ranking leaving the rest of us with higher chances of admission. These rankings hardly matter since being in the top 10 itself already places it in an elite class.</p>

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<p>To be honest, I have no idea how CIT, Duke, UPenn and Dartmouth are above Columbia.</p>

<p>In fact, I'm going to go weep for USNWR.</p>

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<p>Penn and WashU didn't get what they wanted. That's funny.
And ew about being next to Cornell. I'd much prefer being next to Brown or something.</p>

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<p>And Duke was 8th last year, so it actually increased. For some reason, I'm actually not buying these.</p>

<p>Anyways, I think the general perceived knowledge of top schools amongst people "in the know" is more like this</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>UPenn</li>
<li>Duke</li>
</ol>

<p>...with Caltech falling out because of it's size and it not being in any way like any other undergraduate program in the country.</p>

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<p>Uchicago, which used to be tied with columbia and dartmouth isnt on your list, truazn. Also, just wondering, where did you get this list exactly?</p>

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<p>It's (UChicago) #12 on the list...</p>

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<p>A fair ranking would be</p>

<p>Harvard
Yale/Princeton
Stanford
MIT
Columbia
CalTech
Brown/Dartmouth
Penn/Duke/UChicago</p>

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<p>what are you talking about? cornell has number 1 ranked undergraduate programs in architecture, ilr, engineering (amongst the ivy league), applied physics, hotel administration, a higher endowment than brown ($5.08 billions, as of may 31, 2007), etc, etc, etc. US news certainly did not make a mistake in giving brown the ranking it has!</p>

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<p>Right, mrsopresident, and hotel mgmt, ilr and architecture are huge and vastly important programs.</p>

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<p>Dartmouth is an awesome school. It can justifiably be tied with Columbia, or possibly even higher, but some of those schools don't even deserve their rankings.</p>

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<p>
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Cornell? When Cornell comes out on top of any other Ivy, you know something is wrong

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<p>you sound like kind of a tool for somebody who was looking at applying ED to cornell just a few months ago</p>

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I know Cornell is amazing for graduate education, but Brown, is one that you can't really beat for undergrad.

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</p>

<p>that's cool; too bad the USNWR rankings most closely reflect the quality of graduate education at those schools</p>

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<p>Shouldn't Duke come before UPenn according to alphabetical order? ;)</p>

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<p>I've yet to decide which school I like better, UPenn or Columbia. I'm assuming that it'll probably be the latter after my visit to UPenn this Thursday.</p>

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<p>In that case we can just put Brown on top and Columbia second. Sounds fair to me! ;)</p>

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<p>Hm, when am I going to figure out this quoting thing? I meant to quote Sam Lee in the previous post.</p>