<p>Yeah I know....Just like places like bedford-stuyvesant....but harlem is histroical; I thought they will give the place more respect && acclaim</p>
<p>I grew up in NYC. Harlem may be historical but look at the inhabitants and my point is proven. fact of the matter is. IT IS NOT TOO SAFE, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG WOMEN IN THE EVENING.</p>
<p>Uri, I mean this with the best of intentions, but you really have no effing clue what you're talking about. None whatsoever. You grew up in NYC and think you know what it's like to live in harlem? I live in harlem, right freaking now. At night, I walk around, and I see a cop every few minutes. Sure there are guys on the street, a bunch ask for money, but nobody's ever said boo to me. Young women in the evening routinely walk over to my place from the columbia area and aside from the odd guy hollering at them, they said it's no big deal.</p>
<p>I don't pretend to know what it's like in spanish harlem, and I know that above 125th st it starts getting rougher. The area around 141st and bway is a wholesale drug marketplace and SUVs from the suburbs routinely come in and do their deals there, and there are occasionally guns used. I wouldn't want to live between 125th and 168th. But for south harlem, west of Lex ave, I can assure you it's quite safe these days. This ain't your daddy's harlem.</p>
<p>"look at the inhabitants and my point is proven"? What, black people rob and rape you? I think we see where your thinking is here. 'nuff said.</p>
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"look at the inhabitants and my point is proven"? What, black people rob and rape you? I think we see where your thinking is here. 'nuff said.
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<p>haha, pwned</p>
<p>I knew Harlem wasn't that bad..........Its never on the news......&& there are lots of areas that are on the news for violence etc.</p>
<p>GT2- I'm an NYU sophomore applying to transfer to Columbia. As someone who made that switch, can you provide any insight/advice for me?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I would also say that what UriA702 said is not true. Columbia's campus is not the stereotypical picture you'd have of a campus near Harlem(i.e. it's not filled with poor people mugging Columbia students). In fact, it's quite the opposite around the Columbia campus. Because of the riches Columbia brings to the area, the poor original residents have been pushed out for a more upscale neighborhood(thanks gentrification!). </p>
<p>There are a lot of reasons to decide not to go to Columbia, but safety is not one of them. Columbia has campus police always patrolling the area, coupled with the NYPD. To evaluate this from a cynical, but true perspective, Columbia has money, and therefore it is protected much better than some other places(e.x. the South Bronx). Columbia has a lot of money, and a good security force, so security should not be a concern.</p>
<p>The scene kinda changes once you go east past morningside park, but it really isn't something to freak out about if you fell asleep on the subway and ended up on central park north, even then the area is still relatively safe</p>
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<p>That's a bit of a stretch... seeing as on the west is riverside park and the hudson river, and to the south is the upper reaches of the upper west side, with some ethnic neighborhoods along amsterdam and columbus between 110th and 98th street. After that it gets yuppified. Neighborhood restaurants and shopping follow thereafter.</p>
<p>But yeah, it gets sketch once you get past morningside gardens and 125th.</p>
<p>Columbia could learn more about naked self-promotion from NYU -- or for that matter, HYPS. Columbia needs to shed its aristocratic reserve and join the affray that is college competition today.</p>
<p>I just felt like bumping this.</p>
<p>I notice that no one is answering the rivalry part of the question. As a varsity fencer for NYU, I don't really notice any athletic rivalry between the two schools. I don't notice any rivalry, for that matter. I know that MIT and Harvard are constantly pulling pranks on each other but you really don't see that same relationship between NYU and Columbia. The two schools are rather separate.</p>
<p>who owns more land/buildings? i know that CU is the 3rd largest real estate holder in NYC but I dont see how when NYU has like 10 campuses across the city....</p>
<p>i'm not sure who owns more property - I do know that within Manhattan, only the Catholic Church holds more property than Columbia among private entities.</p>
<p>as for the rivalry, though, the two schools don't really interact much as student bodies - sure, you'll meet some NYU friends, or a friend will have some NYU friends and you'll hang out - it's not very competitive. One thing I do know is that our ultimate frisbee team actually taught theirs how to play, when they were forming a while back, and helped them out by scrimmaging regularly, etc. So if there's any sort of rivalry, it's a very friendly one.</p>
<p>Puck Frinceton, though, yo.</p>
<p>^^ eehhh I've known lots of kids who hate on NYU when they realise that Barnard's staying where it is, and no amount of *****ing is going to get rid of it.</p>
<p>Those tend to be chronic complainers though :)</p>
<p>whats so bad about barnard?</p>
<p>Nothing really. I have noticed that the students there have a propensity to own Macbooks.</p>
<p>columbia hands down :P, but NYU's cool though</p>
<p>After 11 pages...I still can't choose between NYU and Columbia. Can someone just give a simple, objective rundown of their strengths and weaknesses?</p>
<p>ummm everyone i know who gets accepted to both chooses CU, especially when they see the cost of NYU- its way overpriced starting around a cool 50g a yr= 200G for your undergrad edu....</p>