<p>I meant $5 or $6 plus tip. I was assuming you meant $10 plus tip, which is still a significant difference (100% difference actually). I understand your point though; it IS expensive (and probably the most expensive) place to live in this country.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there's also many internship opportunities in NYC that you might not get elsewhere, and that can help out with finances.</p>
<p>I love NYC because I've grown up so close to it. I acknowledge it as the "capital of the world" and I have never known a place that draws so much intrigue and inspires so much awe. But, as a student in Philly, I love this city also. It is convenient, classy, and affordable and has a large # of colleges in the city. I've gone to school in Boston and have had a similar experience there too. Going to school in any city suits me just fine. I guess it comes down to certain things, and I just wanted to point out that, NYC, being as popular as it is, definitely weeds people out who can't keep up with the flow.</p>
<p>Regarding the core, would a math-sci person's gpa be pulled down because of the humanities or other courses in the core?</p>
<p>Sorry for going off topic.. Is morningside as safe as any other big cities in the world like London?</p>
<p>datdude,
you do not 'confine' yourself to less affluent areas, most places have reasonable prices because of competition. The city being big and including all income brackets, has entertainment and many bars for a wide spectrum of budgets. if you go to the most popular and publicized bars, drinks are very expensive. There is a considerable difference between a 5-6 dollar drink and a 10 dollar drink, you phrased the $10 ambiguously so there was no reason to consider that you meant tip included. % wise that's a massive difference (that's also true for rounding 7 to 10). and i have spent more than $6 for a beer at certain bars but also $4 at other places. </p>
<p>"NYC, being as popular as it is, definitely weeds people out who can't keep up with the flow"</p>
<p>care to specify what flow you are referring to and how not keeping up with it weeds someone out?</p>
<p>also, very importantly, drinking is not the primary means to socialize in nyc, and certainly isn't at columbia, there's a wide variety of other things to do, i could spend a whole day and evening at the moma, and 'thoroughly enjoy myself' for free. nyc's range of entertainment and leisure activities makes this both easy to do and common. so the price of drinks, if you want them to be expensive, is hardly consequential. </p>
<p>and if your calling me 18 years old, should disable me from having a good time and disregard my opinions, then it should apply to most reading to learn something from this board, it's college confidential not grad-school confidential. the majority of columbia undergrads are underage if you didn't realize.</p>
<p>"My lack of precision is unacceptable and my knowledge of NYC, it's nightlife and party scene is outdated. My inaccuracy is obvious."</p>
<p>i'm glad you recognize these.</p>
<p>Haha, it's free to drink at the frat parties.</p>
<p>Seems like you're holding on tight about the $10 beer thing, particularly when I specified drinks in general are expensive and only included beers along with them. It's OK. And I apologize for being able to tell your age, but it is only because if you have not been out in NYC and experienced the mass expense it is to party there than you have done a great job "confining" yourself to certain areas. Or do you like "not venturing out" better? Or maybe you just haven't reached the time in your life where you go places that aren't stricktly college crowd. Or maybe you come from an affluent family and the expense doesn't bother you. Good for you then. And by flow I mean lifestyle - the cost of living, partying and simply attending college in NYC. As a college student, wouldn't you think that most other college students would want a clear picture about the potential cost of living and having fun in such a city? Now can I say in totality that you can't have a good time in NY without spending money? I don't think anyone can say that's what I said or meant. I think I got the point across that partying, living or just having fun in NYC can get very expensive compared to other college towns or cities.</p>
<p>Wait, is your point just that NYC is an expensive place to live in?</p>
<p>My point is that one may want to consider the potential price tag that comes along with attending school in the NYC. Not just drinking and partying, but living in NYC. Taking cabs, attending shows, buying clothes (tax). I've said it is a great city several times, go there often and I probably live closer to Columbia than most of the kids that go there.</p>
<p>datdude!! - thanks again for the personal attack, it's always nice to receive them once in a while:).</p>
<p>you weren't able to tell my age, thanks very much for trying, but apart from that inability of yours, i was surprized that you would disregard the opinions of an 18 year old, since this is college confidential. i wouldn't really be confining myself if I weren't to party at expensive places. I have been to expensive places but also cheap ones, and i can attest to both the number of cheaper bars and to the quality of several. </p>
<p>God only knows where you are coming up with these assertions that i don't venture out, or could have only been to strictly college parties or that i'm affluent, from me simply saying that there's the whole spectrum of bars and other forms of entertainment in new york. they're so ridiculous that i wonder whether they are actually directed at me, or just some generic nonsense that you recycle everytime you argue with someone that seems to be a college student.</p>
<p>how flowing means paying for parties i don't know, and how an inability to pay for parties weeds you out, probably baffles several more. one of the basic advantages of being at columbia / nyc is the variety of opportunites and forms of entertainment open to you, so a flow is non-existent, you live as you choose to live, by your means and at your pace, and there will always be other people like you - doing just fine and doing well. </p>
<p>columbia takes many many lower income students, and yes perhaps they'd not be willing to spending at new york's most popular bars, but that's true for most students here. at any rate they aren't left out of much and the effect of their familiy's inability to pay, is made obsolete by work-study jobs and part time jobs in the city. One of the reasons columbia has friday off is to encourage and in certain cases allow students to work jobs. i've never heard a single student complain that they were missing out on nyc or on the college experience because they didn't have enough money. you're arguement, if not ridiculous, is irrelevant.</p>
<p>And you're right again. I give in. Columbia is the better place for several reasons, and cost of living is one of them. And no, you aren't 18, you just strike me as being 18, with all your wordly knowledge and all. And yes, NYC is for everyone, regardless of costs of living and partying, pace and culture of the city. And yes, people in NY "LIVE AS THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE." That's right boys and girls, everyone should attend Columbia University because, in NYC, you can live as you choose to live. Good by and good riddance, confidentialcoll.</p>
<p>"And you're right again" - anytime, you're welcome.</p>
<p>"Good by and good riddance" - likewise, perhaps without the good riddance, i was beginning to enjoy your company seeing that you were turing around and all.</p>
<p>You guys are done. No mas.</p>