<p>Worth reading:</p>
<p>I'm somewhat relieved I called my admissions counselor and let her know that UChicago was my top choice.</p>
<p>I guess I'm glad I emailed my counselor and told her the same as you :D</p>
<p>I found it surprising in that statement that Ted O'Neill suggested that someone applying EA to Chicago and ED elsewhere was deceptive. Is there something wrong with having Chicago as a second choice and wanting to convey that level of interest to Chicago by applying early while applying to a first choice ED? Or just simply wanting to get an answer earlier? If he feels that it is somehow wrong to apply to an ED school and Chicago EA, why not change the rules so that one cannot apply to a binding school as well as to Chicago?</p>
<p>Well it's wrong in a way because it's taking the place of someone else who may have been accepted, but wasn't because someone else who's not even going there was accepted. They spend a lot of time looking at the applications, and why bother if the person's already bound to a different school?</p>
<p>But that person is only bound to the other school if they get in. If Chicago is someone's second choice, and they are applying to highly competitive school ED, there is a good chance that that person will ultimately choose Chicago. It's not like the person knows they are going elsewhere and are applying to Chicago just for kicks.</p>
<p>I feel like if Chicago wants to make its early program mainly about conveying that it is your first choice, they should have restrictive early action. If not, I do not think that it is in any way dishonest for someone to apply early just to get an early answer since there is nothing that states that marking a first choice is the intention of EA.</p>
<p>I do see your point about wasting the admissions people's time, but for the many kids who don't get in ED it is not a waste. And nobody is taking someone else's place. They take into account the number of kids who say no when deciding how many kids to accept.</p>
<p>That is true, I do think restrictive EA would be their best bet in this matter, since they wouldn't be forcing you to come if you were accepted, but they would know you wouldn't be bound to going somewhere else. </p>
<p>And in a way you are taking someone's place. Say the decision is between kid Dog and kid Green. One will be admitted, the other deferred. Kid Dog is admitted, while Kid Green is deferred. Kid Dog is admitted ED somewhere else. Kid Green ends up being rejected in RD. Kid Dog essentially took Kid Green's place.</p>
<p>However I do agree that is a tad unreasonable to place a moral/mutual respect tag onto applying ED or EA somewhere else, since their policy is non-restrictive EA and one of the purposes of that is so you can apply to other schools.</p>
<p>As I have explained before, it doesn't work that way^. Each year, Chicago admits about 1,200 kids EA in order to fill about 600 places in its final class. If somehow it could magically identify the 100 or so of the kids it admits who will be accepted ED somewhere else, it wouldn't admit a single additional student in their place. Those students were never coming to Chicago anyway. The 600 students who will eventually enroll are still scattered among the 1,100 accepted students who were NOT accepted ED. </p>
<p>If Chicago admitted 1,200 students with no EA acceptees, it would get more enrolled students out of its early pool than it wants. It would have to cut back on the number of EA students accepted. Kid Green doesn't get admitted under any circumstance.</p>
<p>I, for one, think the existing system works very well for Chicago. It gets a shot at strong, ambitious students who might not ever apply if they had to give up ED elsewhere to do it. Lots of those students won't be accepted ED. Chicago, if it wants them, gets to market to them in a very focused way for three months, at least. I'm certain Chicago coverts a lot of them into students.</p>
<p>I believe Chicago should switch to REA. I'm too tired to explain. Goodnight.</p>
<p>I agree with JHS. I think it's their own version of DukeTIP/CTY Talent Identification Programs and they do a tremendous job concentrating their efforts in those 3 months to convert them into enrolled students (they even offer Merit scholarships).</p>
<p>What a ridiculous entry to put up so close to decision times,
I myself was deffered from Upenn, but am anxiously waiting for the school that truly has my heart, Chicago.
UPenn was my second choice but the Early Decision chance boost was a lot, why would I undermine my entire future by relying on UChicago to undoubtedly take me.
Early action can be treated as regular decision but at an earlier date as well as an early decision.
Its so, absolutely absurd that they can give us the option to apply to another school, and then go "HAHA GOTCHA!", all one day before decisions come out
They should just allow for early decision, I would've locked in my application to UCHI in a heartbeat, and since they say early action is the same as regular decision, why not just take out Early Action if they are going to use it to trap people anyways.
Does this mean I get an automatic deferral? That would break my heart in ways that would be unimaginable.</p>
<p>how can they tell that u applied ED to another school?</p>
<p>i mean i had an interview and she asked me if Chicago was my top choice and i said "i haven;t really made up my mind yet but it is definitely one of the top schools that I have really gotten to like, and would go if accepted" but unless common app or something tells them the other schools we apply to i don't see how they can know</p>
<p>so it isnt possible that they could see it during decisions?
that post scared me SO much</p>
<p>No, this does NOT mean automatic deferral. Many kids combine ED and EA, and Chicago knows that. I think they're just saying that it can be rough for them to admit kids who they feel really good about but who might not be coming after all. But that's their concern, not yours.</p>
<p>I think it's just trying to scare kids away from doing both in their applications. I understand where they're coming from, but I feel kind of miffed as one of these "deceptive" students (I did get accepted to both this and my ED school, so I can imagine how it looks like to them, as an applicant who truly wanted to be at Chicage--I did--and as an applicant that applied ED to another school...whoah...I rambled a bit.).</p>
<p>I'm sorry to all those who got deferred/rejected, and believe that I stole "their" spot in the university. Good luck to you who got deferred in RD! And to those rejected... I am truly sorry. Good luck with your future college endeavors.</p>