<p>4 or 5 security alerts the past few days. Students robbed of I-Phones walking around off campus at 1-130am</p>
<p>Book smarts don't make you street smart.</p>
<p>I’m not sure I get what you’re saying … should those students not have been walking around at 1-130am? Or should they not have been carrying their phones around at that hour? What should they have done that was more common sensical? <–haha The only thing I can think of is to have it, but not let anyone see you using it.</p>
<p>Agree blue…you CANNOT walk around at night anywhere alone…past midnight for certain and maybe earlier. This is true at Fordham, Duke, or even at bucolic Kenyon. </p>
<p>Particularly if you have been drinking. But stupid is as stupid does.</p>
<p>I agree…nobody should be walking around alone at that time and valuables should be stowed away. But it seems harsh to be calling people “stupid”. Instead we should be grateful that nobody was hurt and hope that incoming students take to heart the advice that is given at orientation and understand that they are in a city and it is important to use good judgement, particularly at night. Things can happen anywhere, but the odds are greater in a city than in many other areas.</p>
<p>What is the point of sending security alerts when the people who go out at 1 AM don’t take precaution after reading them? I just received 3 notifications, 3 days in a row about very similar incidents.</p>
<p>The point of sending the messages out is that hopefully people (likely new students) will eventually “get it” and will learn to exercise appropriate caution.</p>
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<p>^ This.</p>
<p>If you want, you can walk around alone all night long carrying an iPhone, a laptop, and cash. Just notice where you are, for goodness’ sake. Stay in places where there are other people. Even the grimy Fordham Road D train stop is very safe if there are six people on the platform with you.</p>
<p>If you need to walk somewhere at night that could leave you and two local males alone on the sidewalk with no other people or cars in sight, walk in a group of three or more, or don’t carry valuables.</p>
<p>Pretty simple.</p>
<p>A course teaching those 30 seconds of common sense would be infinitely more useful than the infinitely useless AlcoholEdu.</p>
<p>Interesting short soliloquy going on here. First, sometimes being direct and harsh is how to call it like it is and get their attention. If the incidents continue (as they do at all urban schools and even the country club bucolic settings) then students who ignore them are stupid. </p>
<p>It may be true you can walk around with gadgets and cash and not be confronted but doing so sober or alone at night off campus is not a smart decision. It’s stupid. Yes going with friends is always safer. Drinking and coming home loaded is poor judgment de facto and de jure. Don’t do it. Anywhere at any college. </p>
<p>But kids are kids. Amd kids are often stupid stubborn and feel invincible. </p>
<p>Alcohol edu is not useless. It may be ignored or scoffed. But alcohol poisoning is no laughing matter. Kids die around the country every year. Sometimes on their first offense and experience. Peer pressure to drink is enormous. And the non drinkers ridiculed and ostracized. Been there done that with my kid. And my kid was no saint either btw. </p>
<p>We do however have to stay united and vigilant and protective. And to help kids. And help Fordham both to deter these events and to insure the wrong message about Fordham is not spread around like some nasty disease. Fordham is safe. But rule breakers and party animals exist. Often they flunk out. </p>
<p>Again this happens at W&L, WashU, Duke , UVa (a huge party school), and BC. It happens at Notre Dame. And Fordham. </p>
<p>Be smart. Don’t drink or drink responsibly. Go in groups off campus late night. And call a cab or campus security to help you if you are loaded and need a ride back. </p>
<p>Fordham is very expensive. Don’t blow your opportunity, disappoint friends and family and put yourself at risk.</p>
<p>If they hadn’t had such expensive phones they wouldn’t have been stolen.</p>
<p>"On Tuesday, September 3, 2013, at approximately 10:50 p.m., two female Fordham students were waiting to cross E. Fordham Road at Bathgate Avenue when they were touched on the buttocks by an unidentified male.</p>
<p>The assailant was part of a group of 10 to 15 males passing by the corner. The students immediately reported the incident to Fordham security. A security supervisor checked E. Fordham Road and notified the NYPD."</p>
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<p>yes, but it is painfully clear that the assailant who touched their behinds is not a Fordham student. While its very unfortunate, events like this occur in many cities and sometimes bucolic countryside settings as well.</p>
<p>I am not sure of your intent here butter? To make Fordham look bad to make people not want to attend Fordham? If so, why? </p>
<p>Take the top 25 schools in the USNWR rankings and do a COMPLETE security/crime check on their reported stats and compare. It may shock you. A student murdered at Yale a few years back ON CAMPUS.</p>
<p>So please, this is not helpful and only serves to scare people. If you (or your child) are from the idyllic suburbs of some city and are shocked by a) college students drinking and getting cellphones taken and b) getting their behinds touched by a creep, well, I suggest you ride the subways in New York City, home to Columbia, Hunter College, CUNY, NYU and more. </p>
<p>Pity the poor kids at UChicago which is now a very dangerous place. Please, this is not helpful.</p>
<p>Fordham is safe. But noplace is perfect, certainly late at night outside the gates.</p>
<p>Good advice from SovereignDebt! My daughter graduated from Fordham several years ago, and found that-with reasonable precautions-that it was a safe place to be. Same with my son who went to UChicago-and they both grew up in a small town. I recall when we went on a campus tour of Fordham, my daughter and I asked a security guard about safety. His answer was spot-on: travel in groups at night, be aware that alcohol impairment puts you at greater risk, keep valuable out of sight. Just be “heads-up.” It’s common sense, but kids who aren’t “street smart” (mine weren’t), need a little education. Thanks to one of the folks from security, my daughter did get this education and took the gentleman’s advice. Four years-no problems.</p>
<p>What did this guy do wrong going for pizza during the day on a busy street?</p>
<p>The following is a message from Fordham University: </p>
<p>At approximately 3:45 p.m. on Wednesday, Feb. 13, a male Fordham student was robbed near the Fordham Road Metro North station. </p>
<p>The student was accosted at Pronto Pizza on Fordham Road and Third Avenue by three males, 16 to 18 years old, one of whom displayed a gun in his waistband. The student was told not to make any noise, and to hand over his wallet and phone. The student complied, and the assailants fled in an unknown direction. The student was not injured.</p>
<p>Thats very disturbing. First its the time of day, second its the Metro North Station and a Pizza joint. Third they are gang members carrying a gun. Fourth, they mugged a male student.</p>
<p>I hope the poor student had a good identification of the criminal scum. I hope the Metro North and the city of New York put up video cameras everywhere. </p>
<p>Sadly people accuse the NYPD of being cruel and frisking people without cause and otherwise targeting persons and such. </p>
<p>I hope students are making their concerns known to the Administration loudly.</p>
<p>HONOURSTUDENT, That is terrifying. I was under the expectation that the area around campus during the day was fine.</p>
<p>Do prospective students have access to these security alerts? </p>
<p>Also, is there a gang problem in the Fordham area that we should know about?</p>
<p>It’s the South Bronx, there are always gangs and crime going on. Just come to LC if you are worried~</p>
<p>^^^I am glad you like the LC location of your campus but you are ill informed about Fordham RH. It is not in the South Bronx nor have I seen gangs in my years at the school. It is important to be smart when outside the campus at night, but that it true of any urban location. While I find the RH campus to be the best of both worlds (a beautiful, traditional campus with access to stores/activities nearby as well as Manhattan) there is no one perfect location for everyone. People overly worried about the Bronx can consider the LC campus (if they want a city at all) or focus on suburban/rural schools.</p>