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I like you Zaph, you stick to your guns
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Thanks. That's because I once believed in "moderation" and many things that are openly liberal, and over the years have come to the conclusion that all those positions are complete hogwash, either being wildly idealistic or completely twisted due to lack of a willingness to face facts.</p>
<p>I know what I believe, and why. That tends to **** some people off. Never, however, have I claimed to be perfect. I am willing to listen to reasoned and factual counter-arguments. All too often, those don't come. You're one of the few who comes pretty damned close, and even succeeds on occaission.</p>
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but you are so entrenched in the "party line"
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What party? You think I don't slam Republicans when they deserve it, even the President? I am an equal-opportunity criticizer. I have opposed the President on campaign finance "reform", his rediculous spending on non-defense items, and border security (or the lack of it, and I know because I LIVED on the damned border for the better part of a year, crossing it daily).</p>
<p>I call them like I see them, no matter what the party.</p>
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you can't even acknowledge the fact that loyalty and love of country is not the exclusive bastion of those who think only as you do.
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"Exclusive", no. There are exceptions. The most recent and best-known examples are Joe Liberman and Zell Miller. Look what their love for their country has gotten them. Miller is openly despised, and Lieberman was just thrown out on his ear by the same people who are now begging him not to hurt them by running as an independent. Talk about hutzpah! </p>
<p>Sorry, Shogun, but the modern Democrat party is completely unlike the party that existed during WWII, or even during the early 60's, when politics ended at the water's edge and America came first. Nowadays, the DNC is a bastion of what's left of the socialistic/communistic/anti-American left, so much so that many "moderate" Democrats are beginning to not only ring the alarm bell, but HAMMER on it in a crazed frenzy, that the Michael Moore kook fringe of the left has hijacked the party. It has, and it shows.</p>
<p>Permit me to return the compliment. I like you, too, not because I agree with your views (which, for the most part, I think are wildly idealistic), but rather because you argue your position rationally. That is another characteristic that has completely failed the Left. Castro (a mass-murderer who people risk their lives to escape from) is a saint, but Bush is the new Hitler and books are written about how to assassinate him, yet SILENCE comes from the DNC to call it extreme. How can a group like that be taken with anything but open contempt?</p>
<p>Just the other day, Howard Dean called for the President of Iraq to not be allowed to speak on the floor of the House because he did not openly condemn Hezbollah. He called him an anti-Semite. A few days later, a senior Democrat member of Congress (name escapes me) refused to condemn Hezbollah. Joe Lieberman has been the target of some of the most viscous anti-semitic comments you can imagine, FROM HIS OWN PARTY, and yet now Dean remains silent, and he's the friggin' CHAIRMAN of the party!</p>
<p>You expect any thinking person to take those idiots seriously?</p>
<p>You don't fit that description, I'm very happy to say. Not even close. Hell, you're not even a Democrat. Certainly not the way they define themselves today. I can respect an honest difference of opinion while seeking a common goal. They have none of that.</p>
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Have a super weekend folks!!
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Likewise, buddy. Stay safe. :)</p>