Comparable to MIT???

<p>@redirect: One other difference is that "pranking" other dorms or living groups is virtually unknown at MIT. Moreover, ery few hacks these days are even associated as being done by one particular living group (the most recent exception being the Purple Dome during Orientation/Rush, which was obviously tEp), because (a) many hacks are done by cross-dorm groups anyway and (b) it has simply become normative for hacking groups to not overtly claim responsibility or sign their hacks.</p>

<p>Also, hacking isn't really part of MIT's official policies. (At least, not</a> yet. See the second major section, "Hacking guidelines drafted.")</p>

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false. i would rank purdue in the 4th category and case in the 5th. and what the heck is mudd?

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<p>If you don't know what Mudd is, then you probably shouldn't be posting advice in this thread.</p>

<p>when it comes to college, either go big or go home.</p>

<p>--"graduating class of Billy, Katie and David, congratulations!"</p>

<p>"If you don't know what Mudd is, then you probably shouldn't be posting advice in this thread."</p>

<p>I lol'd.</p>

<p>Harvey Mudd is one of the Claremont colleges in Southern California (right up the street from me, actually) - the other undergrad colleges are Scripps, Pomona, Pitzer and Claremont McKenna. They're considered good colleges (I've heard them called "the Ivies of the west" - not sure I would go that far, but still good colleges).</p>

<p>How about CalPoly's undergrad engineering program?</p>

<p>CalStates (which CalPoly is) in general aren't thought to be of high prestige, nor do I see similar culture to MIT. (Note, these schools are COMPLETELY different from the UC system.) </p>

<p>Also, are you talking about SLO or Pomona? I hear that SLO is an engineering school, and that they don't like how Pomona claims to also be one. People I know at Pomona, though, claim that they are an engineering school. I sense rivalry there =D.</p>

<p>"If you don't know what Mudd is, then you probably shouldn't be posting advice in this thread."</p>

<p>You know, I agree.</p>

<p>Pomona College does not list engineering as a major or as a minor field: Pomona</a> College : Academics : Overview : The Concentration</p>

<p>He was, of course, talking about Cal Poly Pomona, </p>

<p>College</a> Search - California State Polytechnic University: Pomona - Cal Poly Pomona - At a Glance </p>

<p>not about Pomona College. </p>

<p>College</a> Search - Pomona College - At a Glance</p>

<p>Were you referring to me? 'cause I'm a she =D</p>

<p>All right, "she" it is. I guess I could have noticed the "Gender: Female" line on your online profile, but I rarely look at those. Thanks for letting me know.</p>

<p>If Cal Poly is included, I guess we are really expanding the list of schools "comparable to MIT" by a lot!</p>

<p>"If Cal Poly is included, I guess we are really expanding the list of schools "comparable to MIT" by a lot!"</p>

<p>... Yeah, that's what I was thinking.</p>

<p>I've heard that Rose-Hulman has great engineering programs as well, at least according to USNEWS. I often feel that those rankings are biased in one way or another, but there's good correlation.</p>

<p>MIT is always an excellent option. The other schools that I was impressed with from that standpoint were</p>

<p>Harvey Mudd, Olin, Caltech, Stanford, Princeton, and in that order according to the Muddslinger rankings :D</p>

<p>We seem to have migrated south and west of your original starting position, but seriously, take a look at these schools.</p>

<p>Also remember that you can find MIT-class opportunities at just about any first or second tier engineering school, provided that you seek the right opportunities. If you're really into semiconductors, for example, you might want to look at Lehigh University. Since the school is less competitive, as an overqualified candidate you could pretty easily intern at their Center for Optical Technologies - a brand-new, 40,000 sq. ft. semiconductor fabrication, assembly and research facility. I took a tour after doing some introductory level research at the University of Wyoming and was awestruck at the sheer volume of million-dollar devices. So there's a little anecdote about opportunities :)</p>

<p>If you want to "go with the flow" to get your education, here's a (probably a very incomplete) list of peer institutions that would deliver a comparable education:</p>

<p>Mudd, Olin, Stanford, Caltech, Berkeley, Harvard, Princeton, Columbia... yea the list goes on from there :)</p>

<p>I agree with SamLee, Northwestern is worth considering as a backup, both the Integrated Science Program and McCormick School of Engineering. IMO students attracted to MIT undergrad may be offput by the competition for limited resources and bureaucracy that can occur at the large state schools, Berkeley, Illinois etc.</p>

<p>^ISP is easier to get in yet it probably matches MIT in terms of rigor. The kind of students ISP attract are very similar to those at MIT.Integrated</a> Science Program » Current Students shows the awards ISP majors won this year. My guess is the caliber of ISP majors is on par with average MIT students. It's like a mini-MIT within a mid-size private U.</p>

<p>The following schools ** in the Northeast ** compare to MIT in academic strength:</p>

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[<em>] Princeton (Mathematics, Economics)
[</em>] Harvard (Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Economics)
[li] Carnegie Mellon (Computer Science)[/li][/ol]</p>

<p>Unfortunately, no school in the Northeast can be considered as good as MIT for engineering. If you are willing to move to the West Coast though, Stanford, Caltech and Berkeley offer comparable engineering programs.</p>

<p>Be wary of Berkeley for undergrad engineering. You need to select a specific major within engineering at the time you apply and it is difficult if not impossible to switch to another engineering field thereafter. Also, the advising is almost do-it-yourself, alot of the teaching is by TA's and it is not unusual to be closed out of required courses. Additionally on campus housing is expensive, shabby and only guaranteed for freshman year. Moreover, admissions, as a matter of course, discriminates against OOS particularly those applying to engineering. In short, it's worth applying if you get the instate tuition and money is a factor. Otherwise save it for grad school. IMO Stanford is almost the opposite, it is more broadly focussed on the humanities than most and engineering prospies may get more of this than they bargained for. I dont want to start another CalTech vs. MIT debate so I'll refrain on that one.</p>

<p>How does Georgia Tech compare?</p>

<p>AtomicFusion: So I guess in your view no prospie can form an educated opinion based on campus visits, classes attended, inquiries about general reputation to people in the field and examination of course descriptions and faculty bios (I did all of this with respect to MIT and Mudd). If that's your view, why are you on CC then? Sorry if I offended you, but in my opinion, which is apparently shared by at least several other cross admits, MIT is just a notch better than Mudd. I also acknowledged that Mudders would likely disagree with me on this and they are entitled to their opinion. I liked Mudd alot, gave it very serious consideration and was recommending it here as an alternative to MIT. I dont see any of this as controversial. I also dont see how you have added anything to the discussion.</p>