<p>actually this debate has been intriguing</p>
<p>at the very least, we can say with a high degree of confidence that a DVD copy of Gigli isn't going to make it into Sakky's last will and testament... unless, of course, he plans on bequeathing it to Calstate Eastbay.</p>
<p>Just in reference to the OP, I think many Ivies have certain intangible qualities which public universities don't. And I think that there are pretty big gaps among the top three schools and those below. That is just my experience after visiting. </p>
<p>I think rankings are good, just as consumer reports are good. It is hard to say that a Lamborghini would be better than a Civic, but based on many statistics, and based on what many people see as "comfort," we know which would come on top. Of course, many may prefer the Civic, finding it more comfortable, more "homey," etc. but again, the function of Consumer Reports is to present the reader with statistical information, some personal viewpoints, and consumer views. The main factor in picking a car may not be mileage--it may be "smell inside," but CR picks what it finds to be the most commonly accepted statistics.</p>
<p>Also, on peoples' lists, Cal Tech is SEVERELY underrated. Also, out of all the top-three, Princeton has the highest standards of grading--I don't think that would be debated in today's academic community.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Then, again, using that logic, nobody can ever compare anything against anything.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>At least not if the things in question are as subjective in evaluation as colleges.</p>
<p>^ Precisely.</p>
<p>Paco de Lucia:</p>
<p>You simply visited, so you can't really say much. Universities are much more complex than cars.</p>
<p>southpasdena:</p>
<p>I say this thread should end because it's gone this far and nobody's gotten anywhere. =)</p>
<p>
[quote]
At least not if the things in question are as subjective in evaluation as colleges.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>And yet we, as a society, do it all the time anyway. For example, we constantly rank movies, music, restaurants, works of art, fashion, books, and so forth. All of these things are inherently subjective. Yet we rank them anyway. </p>
<p>For example, I think we would get little dispute that Shakespeare is one of the most important, and arguably the most important author in English literature. But that is, inherently, a subjective statement. However, if it is really so subjective, then why force high school students to read Shakespeare, if nobody can objectively state that Shakespeare is important anyway? Why not just have high school students read copies of Maxim Magazine instead? I think you would get little dispute among art historians that Michaelangelo is an important artist in Western history. But since art is subjective, how can we make that statement? Maybe he's no better than some street artist. </p>
<p>The point is, we all make subjective statements all the time. And nobody seems to have a problem with that. So why would it be any different about colleges?</p>
<p>
[quote]
I think you really need to just let this debate die. =)
[/quote]
</p>
<p>
[quote]
I say this thread should end because it's gone this far and nobody's gotten anywhere. =)
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Don't impinge upon my free speech. If you don't like what I write, then don't read it. I certainly don't read every post on CC. </p>
<p>If other people want to keep talking about this, then you should let them do so. If nobody does, then the thread will die of its own volition without you having to request that it appen.</p>
<p>Can you point out where I said that you couldn't post on this thread anymore? No, you can't, because I never said it.</p>
<p>I simply told you that letting it go would be best; you can obviously have a different viewpoint.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Can you point out where I said that you couldn't post on this thread anymore? No, you can't, because I never said it.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>You said "I think you really need to just let this debate die." Why did you say that? You don't have the right to tell other posters what they should do with a particular debate. If I want to keep posting on this thread, that's my business, not yours.</p>
<p>Er, indeed, but "I think you really need to just let this debate die" =/= "Stop posting." I didn't tell other posters to stop -- I stated an opinion (as indicated by "I think").</p>
<p>Considering I started this thread asking for other opinions, it is my business. 'Course I don't have to read the responses, but I thought I'd tell you that I think your repeated responses hold little substance since few are responding and since you don't seem to be moving anyone to a new viewpoint.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Also, on peoples' lists, Cal Tech is SEVERELY underrated. Also, out of all the top-three, Princeton has the highest standards of grading--I don't think that would be debated in today's academic community.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>I don't think CalTech is severly underrated. It's been consistently ranked in the top 10 and was even ranked #1 one year. Anyone who has heard of CalTech acknowledges that it is a very good school.</p>
<p>clearly Sakky doesn't peruse Maxim magazine for the articles.</p>
<p>Nah! like me, Sakky sticks to the comics section.</p>
<p>this conversation is turning dirty</p>
<p>Jenna Dewan is better than Cornell.</p>
<p>MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Duke, UChicago... These are every bit as good as ivies.</p>
<p>Post #154 was written because as long as we're comparing things that really can't be compared precisely, we might as well get a little cheesecake into the discussion.</p>
<p>And Rachel McAdams peer assessment score should be higher than Stanford's.</p>
<p>TourGuide, sheer brilliance.</p>
<p>its all what you put into it. you can pretty much get a good education almost anywhere you go.</p>
<p>I disagree with TourGuide446. You cannot compare schools with people, but you can compare schools with other schools haha.
Of course, each school has its own positives and negatives, but in general, I feel schools #1-20 are about the same, 21-40 are about the same, and so on.</p>
<p>That is without considering dorm life, location of school, food quality, and etc. haha, which they should do, although it'd still be difficult..</p>
<p>Necro-posting, as UCLAri would say.</p>