Complaints filed against USC, UC Berkeley over rape reporting

<p><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/22/local/la-me-0523-college-rape-20130523%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/22/local/la-me-0523-college-rape-20130523&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>So , to all these people saying USC is safe, how exactly is that?</p>

<p>You’re too naive to understand…and I wouldn’t worry about it since it probably won’t happen to you as a mechanical engineer looking to live on a single gender floor…</p>

<p>If you really want the real story about the main rape in question, you can read her actual post [After</a> Being Failed by My College’s Administration, I Posted My Rapist’s Name and Photo on the Internet | xoJane](<a href=“http://www.xojane.com/issues/tucker-reed-outs-rapist-at-usc]After”>http://www.xojane.com/issues/tucker-reed-outs-rapist-at-usc)
and USC’s findings <a href=“http://i.imgur.com/CHxED33.png[/url]”>http://i.imgur.com/CHxED33.png&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I’m pretty sure I understand. I’m not worried for me but for girls that are friends of mine going to usc.</p>

<p>College administration response to rape reporting on college campuses across the country has been a terrible problem for a very long time, and it is definitely time to make changes at all colleges and universities. The FIRST call should always be to the POLICE. Not the resident advisor, the college administration or the campus police - the POLICE.</p>

<p>As to maximillion’s question about people here on the forum saying that USC is safe, in general the “safety” questions that are posted on this forum have to do with the safety of the surrounding neighborhood. THIS article discusses the danger to young women from those she knows right there ON campus with her at colleges across the country. The discussion about the neighborhood becomes irrelevant.</p>

<p>The real danger to women, whether at college or not, is and always has been from those she knows and trusts - and while at college that includes her fellow students. maximillion is right to be worried, as are parents of young women heading off to any college. Hard questions need to be asked of administrations in advance of these situations arising so that the administrators know that parents expect that reporting will be immediate, to the appropriate agencies and thorough. Parents, raise your hands during the orientation sessions and ask what the procedure will be in the case of a young woman reporting that she has been raped - there should be NO question of ANY college official “deciding” if a rape should be reported to the police - it must be the FIRST step.</p>

<p>I hope to hear from parents attending orientation this year that USC is responding as quickly and transparently to these issues as they have to the neighborhood safety concerns - all parents of college-bound women should be far more concerned about this issue than whether their child’s college is in a working-class or a ritzy neighborhood.</p>

<p>Gloria Allred? (Who used to teach at USC.)</p>

<p>Enough said.</p>

<p>To crystallize what LameMom and others are saying, you’re comparing apples and oranges. Campus rapes are one thing - and an ugly underside of the college experience - while petty crimes resulting from a bad neighborhood are another matter entirely.</p>

<p>Rapes happen everywhere. The bad neighborhood stuff is germane to USC and plenty of other urban schools. The former is an ugly reality, while the latter is offset by being in the middle of a truly great world city, with plenty of opportunities practically at your doorstep.</p>

<p>An alternative to fear of sexual assault (by fellow students, as LameMom noted) would be to attend a single gender college, although few of those still exist today, unfortunately. Ironically, 40 years after Boomers fought to end it, it’s being rediscovered on the K-12 level.</p>

<p>simba9, the fact that you do not like the messenger does nothing to explain away the serious issue of sexual violence against young women - most frequently, freshmen women - on college campuses across the country. </p>

<p>OP: my daughter just completed her freshman year at USC. I worried far more about her vulnerability as a lovely, open, trusting young woman than I did about the surrounding neighborhood and overall safety of USC as compared with other colleges.</p>

<p>Sadly, crimes against woman occur at every university. Some university’s are worse at covering them up. tragically, My son’s girlfriend was sexually assaulted by some one who was not a student at UCSB. All of our university have to get better at listing their statistics for every crime and at helping those students who are touched by crime.</p>

<p>Snowdog, Gloria Allred’s only interested in getting her mug in front of the cameras. Over-hyping a case is one way to do that.</p>

<p>I didn’t see anything in the article that indicated things were worse at USC than at any other university. Just a few individual complaints, but certainly nothing to indicate a trend.</p>

<p>is it just me or does the girl in the article kinda sound stupid filing a rape charge on her boyfriend after 2 years of going out ? but then I’m a guy so I may never understand her pain … but still … BUT THEN if i had a daughter and that **** happened …</p>

<p>Transfer20I3, you are displaying the exact attitude that leads to continued violence against women. Your statement that because they had been going out for two years it gives him a right to use her for sex whenever he chooses - whether she consents or not - suggests that you consider women to be the property of the men they know. You are not correct.</p>

<p>simba9, you are correct in that this issue is a problem at colleges and universities across the nation, including USC.</p>

<p>@ alamemom lol in no way was I trying to imply that I see women as objects, although many in our society suffer from objectification. It just struck me as odd how she would file for rape after going out for 2 years. Granted she may have had trauma but I see that the committee favored the boy because they had a relationship for so long, and in many cases seems silly to file for rape. Maybe because she did not find out earlier she had been date raped she couldn’t file then which she probably would have won the case. OR if she had been raped recently during the relationship she may have won. Also this is a problem everywhere, not only in colleges but in high schools to be exact sad as it is.</p>

<p>TLDR; maybe it is just me lol</p>

<p>Agree with simba. </p>

<p>It’s hard to take anything seriously the woman represents.</p>

<p>I’m so surprised at you alamemom- you have been a voice of reason so I’m puzzled why you are so off base here. Clearly you didn’t read this girls entire blog and other writings about this. The boy didn’t “use her for sex whenever he wanted”. He loved her and the one incident was the result of a drunke night where the 21 year old girl supplied liquor through her friends at a party to a 19 year old boy. She then willingly engaged in oral sex in her bedroom while willingly naked. She herself admits that the boy may have misunderstood that all she wanted to do was oral sex and when it progressed to intercourse she wanted to stop but admits he was so drunk he could barely stand and may not have understood. She then dated him for two years and he proposed. She says this NEVER happened again so why are you saying it did? Only after he broke up with her later did she report this as a rape. USC investigated this thoroughly and she reported it to the police. Her story was not believable to either the police or USC and neither found it reasonable to prosecute. This was not rape – it was vindictiveness. She wants to destroy this boy because he broke up with her. In her own words she wants him to have To "change his name and sell used cars in Michigan for the rest of her life. That’s why she posted his name and picture on her site. He’s now suing her for this. Read the entire story and you’ll understand.</p>

<p>My statement was in response to Transfer2013’s statement.</p>

<p>I too am surprised, Rosieoney, that you would suggest that rape is okay as long as it “only happens once…”</p>

<p>Rest assured, I have read the entire story, as well as others on the incident.</p>

<p>You entirely misread my message. When I said it never happened again I meant it probably never happened in the first place. If he was a rapist don’t you think it’s likely he would have taken advantage of her again at some point over the next two years? That’s exactly what you implied when you said “using her for sex whenever he chooses” No other girl came forward with a complaint against him. In fact – almost everyone that knows the two of them thinks the girl is horrible to be doing this. Again I’m surprised at you. I said 1) the girl was drunk as well, 2) it happened two years ago, 3) she’s mad at him because he broke up with her and 4) she may or may not be remembering the situation correctly. She may be honestly misremembering or just deliberately just trying to destroy his reputation. She isn’t trying to save other girls – she’s only about publicizing herself. If she really wanted to help other girls she’d be telling them not to get drunk and not to bring drunk guys back to your apartment. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? You’re declaring him guilty until proven innocent. I hate the new helpless girl “oh I need a Father to save me because I’m so weak and helpless” attitude. In her posts she actually says the President of USC should be a “Father” and save the poor helpless girls. It didn’t even happen on school property or in a school dorm – is President Nikias supposed to follow every girl home? And remember…she was 21 and he was 19 and she took him to parties where he was drinking. Stand up for yourself girls…don’t be afraid to stop something if you don’t want it to happen. In her own blog she says she didn’t want to make noise for her roommates to hear because they would think she was a slut. If she was actually being raped why didn’t she stand up and shout? This girl is a sham and it hurts other girls who have been violently raped. Shame on you for promoting helplessness for girls. I have great sympathy for girls who have been raped. I just don’t think this girl was raped based on her own writings. And obviously neither did USC or the police.</p>

<p>I also find it strange that you are trashing USC over this. They did exactly what they were supposed to do. They investigated, supported her going to the police and came to a conclusion that evidently you don’t like. USC has alcohol orientation for freshmen, they constantly warn us about date rape, stranger rape and being safe. I take responsibility for my own safety and don’t put myself in situations where something is likely to happen that I’ll regret. USC does a great job of trying to keep girls safe – but they can’t follow them home and Nikias is not their father.</p>

<p>You are mistaken. I am not “trashing” USC, I am stating, clearly, that rape reporting at colleges and universities across the country including USC is a problem.

I go on to say that it is my hope that USC will respond to these issues in the positive way they have responded to other issues:

I have been disheartened and disappointed in the comments by several posters on this thread displaying attitudes toward rape that perpetuate the problem. Your comments about rape, Rosieony, are an example: Your comments suggest that she was drunk, so she deserved it. That it only happened once, so it’s okay, That he proposed later, so he made it okay. That she put herself in a bad position, so he couldn’t be expected to control himself.</p>

<p>If you will re-read my posts, you will see that I am actually trashing you and other posters on this thread for their attitudes rather than USC. I am confident that USC will respond in a positive way to the recent complaints. I do not have the same confidence in you and some other posters on this thread (in particular, the poster who responded in a discussion about rape with “lol”).</p>

<p>I’m very disheartened that someone I once looked up to has shown that she does not believe in the basic tenet of the law and truly of society - innocent until proven guilty. No one who posted here is making light of rape. The comments here were made because these people, after reading her stuff, do not believe a rape took place. No one is saying 1) “she was drunk so she deserved it” - she herself admits she was drunk and my reference to it was to give her the benefit of the doubt that she might be misremembering the situation and “repurposing” a situation into rape after the boy broke up with her and not just deliberately trying to destroy his reputation with a lie. 2). “That it happened once so it’s OK” - that was said as corroborating evidence that he should be given the benefit of the doubt since most rapists (date-rape or otherwise) are repeat offenders. Again - I don’t believe a rape occurred so I am not saying “once” is OK. If even one incidence of rape occurs the person should be reported to the police and be punished. 3). “he later proposed so it makes it OK”. NO I am not saying that. regardless of what happens after a rape nothing makes it OK- not even being jailed makes it right for the person he raped. As I have said, I do not believe a rape took place so I am not trying to justify any rape for any reason. So please stop claiming that I am taking rape lightly. I think that this type of false rape claim that is so unbelievable actually really hurts actual victims - they think their claim will not be believed without understanding all the reasons why the university and the police did not believe her claim. As you have seen, the majority of people (both men and women) who take the time to read through her blog and other articles see that she is using this rape victim claim as a career move. It is seen as pure vindictiveness from a girl who was mad about being dumped. Also her whiney helpless act is setting back women’s progress as capable and strong and responsible for themselves.</p>