The best way to find out the status of the computer engineering program at CWRU would be to write or call the EECS Department Head, Professor Kenneth Loparo 216-368-4115 kale@case.edu
Note that EECS offers four bachelors degrees subspecialties: 1. systems and controls engineering 2. computer science 3. electrical engineering and 4. computer engineering.
There is no computer engineering department at CWRU. So its not likely to be “shut down”. Just to clear up misinformation on CC by seniors at CWRU who appear to be disgruntled and not actually studying computer engineering. Go to the professors and department heads, visit campus and ask questions to find out if the program will fit your needs.
We have some of the computer engineering courses. We have no C programming, compilers, or microcontrollers courses. If you are comfortable graduating with this whole in your education, you can still get a computer engineering degree from case. It’s tricky to get employed with just CE and many students double major in EE and CE.
“Hole” not “whole”
There seems to be a computer design class at CWRU, from this website:
https://engineering.case.edu/eecs/node/246
EECS 316. Computer Design (3)
Methodologies for systematic design of digital systems with emphasis on programmable logic implementations and prototyping. Laboratory which uses modern design techniques based on hardware description languages such as VHDL, CAD tools, and Field Programmable Gate Arrays (FPGAs). Prereq: EECS 281, EECS 315.
The computer engineering students I know find the eecs 315 and 316 sequence mediocre at cwru. One of them have an industry job and had mentioned the curriculum is outdated. I would not pursue a CE degree at case. Many students double major in EE and CE to compensate for the CE program. Go on us news and look up the best computer engineering programs. Also in addition to the weaker CE program, there is no predominant student organization like ieee to foster collaboration and networking among ce and ee students. There’s probably 60 undergrads in EE and CE and it’s quite lonely.
Also we don’t touch on microcontrollersome long enough for students to develop the necessary skills in arm for industry.
Here is CWRU student chapter of IEEE link:
The IEEE has a presence at all good engineering colleges including Case Western. Its not lonely if a student joins the IEEE, its a wonderful professional engineering organization that offers networking, classes, and the best journals in the industry.
We don’t have a functioning IEEE. We have a computer science conglomerate called the Hacker society that uses the funding for the student chapter of IEEE for predominantly cs things. Last semester, the secretary of IEEE didn’t even have an IEEE membership. IEEE is a ghost on campus.
I think Marbles321 graduated or she said she did, to me in a private message, but she is still lurking here, writing negative comments about CWRU. I have a mind to call CWRU about that and see if they can do something but its what it is, I guess. CC is not the best way to figure out if a school is a fit, visit campus and ask questions. Things change year to year. You can search on Marbles321 and see her beefs with CWRU in other posts.
I was a student that experienced very little support from the student chapter of ieee. that’s all. cwru isn’t ranked high for computer engineering and many of the current alumni are disappointed in that.
Many of the cwru professors acknowledge our computer engineering department has some issues.
I also would appreciate if I wasn’t threatened for discussing my experience at cwru.
I have seen much better computer engineering curriculums from Rutgers, Wpi, Umass etc. that actually teach C programming and industry based skills. Case is a research university and we are off the pulse of industry.
Rank may not be the best criteria to judge engineering colleges. Small class sizes, on campus research, and an active IEEE group on campus are also is important. CWRU offers all three. Here is another link to the SparkTalks at CWRU every Monday, Glennan room 313 at 7:30 pm, and here are some of the presentations, on line too.
Anyone can buy a membership if they choose to join the IEEE. There is a student rate for that. Its open to any student. Its also open to professional engineers at a higher rate.
I went to case for four years and didn’t get one email about the spark talks. The website is outdated.
Instead the Hacker society has computer science + rarely hardware talks Wednesdays at 7:30.
Here is the link to join the IEEE. This is current information. The IEEE is an active group in and around CWRU. IEEE Cleveland has meetings too as Cleveland is a high tech city with thousands of practicing engineers. See link here.
Here is how to join the IEEE:
http://www.ieee.org/membership_services/membership/join/index.html
Here is Cleveland State Universities meetings:
http://www.ieeecsu.org/sac
Here is the link to IEEE Cleveland which welcomes students too:
CWRU students are welcome to join and be part of one of the most powerful networking groups in the USA, the IEEE.
Universities, even their engineering colleges, are not vocational institutes. Students should not expect to be given a comprehensive technical training in their courses. I teach biomedical courses. Our students are given a strong foundation so that they understand the what and why; they are taught the how in academic research and industrial labs. A neighbor’s child was at CWRU for EE and is now at an international firm working on controller development. How did he learn the mechanics to build on the theory he was exposed to in his courses? Robotics club. Volunteering in one of the EE labs. Summer internships. Tinkering in the EE lab after hours - it is always open. If a college student expects everything to be spoon-fed to them in a class, then (s)he will be severely limited in terms of post-college opportunities.
The mechanics of any programming language can be learned easily outside of a university. Theory, algorithms, etc - the foundation necessary for creative problem-solving, that is the realm of universities. It seems to me that the things that marbles321 was looking for may have been better sought at a technical college than a university.