<p>I am sorry for posting this again despite the fact that there is a similar one right below.</p>
<p>People tend to not look at the posts they already saw or answered, so I needed to post my question to
get the immediate attention(answer).</p>
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<li><p>Which school would be better to minor in business?</p></li>
<li><p>From the previous posts I looked at, I heard that Ross major CS minor degree is somewhat better than CS major Ross minor. Is it true?</p></li>
<li><p>Can I skip the language requirement of LSA if I lived in Korea for 14 years? I skipped the High school language requirement with that..</p></li>
<li><p>I saw a post that people would recommend LSA CS if you have a previous experience because you can take the upper level CS course early. Is it true? I took AP Computer Science, but do not really remember much from the class. </p></li>
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<li><p>If CS, then LSA. You don’t really have a choice with the other engineering majors. </p></li>
<li><p>Ross major, CS minor is guaranteed. Otherway is not, because you need to apply for a Ross minor which is very competitive. Anyone can get a computer science minor. Depends on what you want to do. If you want to do all that Wall Street stuff, then Ross. If you’re into entrepreneurship and want to get involved in the bay, CS major will get you leaps and bounds ahead.</p></li>
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<li>Doing CS-LSA allows you to take EECS 203 and 280 first semester then EECS 281 your second semester freshman year, but I’d say very few people ever do that. You should do the proposed schedule if you did extremely in your AP CS class. Also this schedule, might be a lot for most freshman to take. If you do want to do 203/280 first semester, probably take 12-13 total only or two other very easy classes so you can make that HS-college transition smoother.</li>
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<p>OMG! Thank you that made everything easier for me! </p>
<p>However, I still have some things that need to be cleared up before I decide!</p>
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<li><p>You are suggesting I should go for LSA right? In my understandings, in engineering college,you cannot do any other minor other than engineering unless Ross minor program, is it ture?</p></li>
<li><p>Wouldn’t it be the same since getting into Ross is competitive as well? or is it that Ross minor is much more competitive than Ross major?</p></li>
<li><p>So it is not recommended unless you had a great CS experience?</p></li>
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<li>Minor is more competitive than major. 100 accepted per year vs ~340 If you really just want to do Ross for the business classes and electives. But you can get in as Ross major, take all the business courses while majoring in CS-LSA. Then senior year you can withdraw from Ross, where you got the recruiting and Ross careercenter benefits sophomore and junior year.</li>
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<p>You don’t have to apply for the CS minor just enroll in the classes. You have to apply for Ross minor</p>
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<li>Only if you’ve had prior experience in programming. </li>
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<p>^ The Ross major is harder to get into than the Ross minor even thought the acceptance rate is somewhat higher because so many freshman year Ross rejects apply for the minor. The major gets the strongest applicants who are then all taken out of the minor application pool. It’s the same thing with org studies, easier to get into despite the lower acceptance rate because of how much it attracts people who didn’t get into the Ross major.</p>
<p>And nobody withdraws from Ross senior year, that’d be ridiculous. For one, there’s only one core class for Ross you need to take senior year and usually just a couple more electives, so it doesn’t make sense to drop out that late with all that work already put in sophomore and junior year. Secondly, employers that recruit you for junior summer internships through Ross are counting on you finishing up the BBA degree. Any offer you might get after your internship would almost definitely be pulled if you just dropped out of Ross.</p>
<p>You might be right, but we’re going to need to see some actual data before we can draw any conclusions. I know Engineers/CS and math majors take up a significant portion of the Ross minors accepted. A lot of people who just decide to “throw in an application” but wanted to focus their studies on something different. Plus, the minor was only introduced recently. Many transfer students also apply for it to avoid delaying graduation. </p>
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You’re looking at it from the wrong angle. Obviously, it’s a pretty dumb move if Ross is your only major. My advice is for OP who wants to also go for CS. Although rare,I’ve met a kid who wanted to do a dual degree in EE and Ross, but decided to disenroll from Ross courses senior year to take his final EECS stuff and graduate in 4 years.</p>
<p>CS major Ross minor gives you vastly broader career opportunities than Ross major CS minor, but you would have an easier time with high finance recruiting (outside of quant/market making) with the latter. The former gives you a higher ceiling and the latter gives you a higher floor.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know CS people (i.e. my boyfriend) who were proficient in several programming languages before college and also some who had never even tried to code before starting their degree programs. Both have been highly successful, though the latter did have to work a bit harder at first. </p>
Nah, I think it makes sense. There’s a lot of CS majors who receive B- grades and below(B-/B is typically the mean in EECS). In contrast, Ross’s avg GPA is around a 3.4 which is a B+. It is much rarer for them to receive grades in the C range. So the bottom 20% of the Ross class still does better in terms of employment and salary compared to the bottom 20% of CS kids. Yet there’s is a larger difference between the 20th percentile CS kids and the 95th percentile of CS than the difference between 20th percentile Ross and 95th percentile Ross. And that’s because of the levels of technicality of CS. 95th and up CS kids have been programming since they were 13 or so and can produce much higher quality and maintainable code greater than 10x faster than the bottom tier.</p>
<p>Plus, how often do you see a 14 year old kid learning accounting principles/investment banking/or equity? Much rarer. </p>
<p>After EECS 281, most people are roughly are even ground. A lot of self-taught programmers have bad habits that they carry over.</p>
Okay, then what firms do these two groups each usually work for?</p>
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Because for CS students who have both highest technical skills and great networking will rise higher and faster.
How often do you hear a team 4 people sell their multimillion business/app to a tech giant? Every week. </p>
<p>CEO of Goldman Sachs, Blackrock, and JP Morgan aren’t even billionaires. </p>
<p>It’s not. The top 5% of Ross grads are going to goldman, blackstone, morgan stanley, McKinsey, Bain and bcg. they’ll be making more 3 years out than the CS major will mid career. of course, their lives will be miserable. Not entirely sure what Bearcats is talking about, maybe he can explain.</p>
<p>If we’re talking about in terms of pay level (being something like Amazon or higher), then we’re talking something more like 40% of CS bachelors students. Microsoft I’m pretty sure hires more than 5% of the graduating class on it’s own. Amazon does as well I think. </p>
<p>3 years out the average person in the top 1/3 from CS undergrad will probably be making about 140-200K all things included. I don’t know how that compares to consulting. It’s probably a bit lower, but software developer is also not working 80 hour weeks so there’s that. </p>
<p>You’ll never get rich as a software developer (working at someone elses company with no equity) but it’s the easiest way to a very solid middle class life. </p>
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<p>No name firms for both. What answer did you expect here. </p>