Computer Science or Computer Info. Sys.?

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<p>Did they write financial systems? When I started out, we had business
systems analysts that worked with programmers and the two functions
were separate so as to prevent bias on how systems were developed. In
later jobs the programmers could perform both functions but the
programmers had business backgrounds. The average person or CS grad
wouldn’t have the background to know what questions to ask the variety
of people that they would have to talk to and interpret their answers
to come up with a solution design.</p>

<p>“I am talking about the average person on the street. I also do see a
very high need for all of the developers to understand time complexity.”</p>

<p>We have a few recent MIT grads and I asked him about foundations and
algorithms. He told me that students that don’t want to take the
traditional theory course (using Cormen, Leiserson and Rivest) can
take a different track for EECS. My son’s university is removing the
requirement for Foundations for next year. I wonder if there is a
trend in making theory optional in CS programs. I’ve purchased two
Core i7 (Nehalem) systems recently and the compute power of these
machines is amazing. We’re going to be scaling up computing power by
factors of two every 18 months for a while which is going to make
worrying about efficiency for most applications less of a software
development factor. Instead, developers can focus on the particular
aspects of their applications that they can do well at and worry less
about performance.</p>

<p>I think that it is good to understand time complexity but I see a lot
of kids that don’t really understand it. It’s an upper-level course
and I think that a lot of professors give their students a pass, even
if they really come out of it with little understanding.</p>

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<p>I suggest you try this with the typical community college student.
There are lots of kids at my daughter’s community college that have
passed the MCAS tests, supposedly one of the toughest high-school exit
exams in the country that are taking remedial math at the elementary
and high-school level.</p>

<p>We homeschooled from K-12 and I have complete curriculum sets for math
and other subjects and participate with other parents and professors
on school education, including math. I also have a set of classroom
texts from Singapore for the primary grades. What you say simply isn’t
true.</p>

<p>"Dealing with people is the toughest part.</p>

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<p>I disagree.</p>

<p>We wouldn’t have our modern high-tech world without managers.</p>

<p>C-c-c-c-Combo breaker!</p>

<p>CS degree is stronger. I’m working towards an IS degree with a CS minor.</p>

<p>“Of course the managers get more, why wouldn’t they want to help each other. Its like the old boys club. Though as for importance, if we looked at civilzation today and stripped out everything a manager has ever contributed, the differences would be small. If we stripped away everything engineers have contributed, we would live in a vastly different world.”</p>

<p>That’s simply not true. Managers are completely essential to the development of our world and technology, and it would have been nigh impossible for engineers to have accomplished what they have.</p>

<p>However, I do agree that the somewhat large gap in salary between managers and engineers is unjust, and even somewhat of an exploitation - managers, while essential, are no less important than the engineers, and their pay should at least somewhat reflect that, instead of the lowest managerial position being equivalent to the highest engineering position.</p>

<p>I think anybody who believes that management is intuitive and can be naturally taught to someone with a 5th grade education is ignorant and has no idea about how it really works.</p>

<p>You earn a Bachelor of Science because Management or Information Systems are sciences. I came into college as a declared CS major but later switched over to IS. </p>

<p>Why? My reason is simply this: While I absolutely love engineering and understanding the fundamentals of computing, I felt that within the CS department I was limiting myself because I had to inhibit my strengths in leadership, communication and business sense.</p>

<p>I think it’s all about self assessment–understand your strengths and passions and focus on building on them.</p>

<p>BCEagle, you said you have a degree in IS and CS, are they both BS’s?</p>

<h2>Ba + ms.</h2>