<p>At the end of the day, both schools are big 'ole universities with a lot of activities with very high rankings. I am pretty sure that an employer would not chose one candidate over another from those two schools decisively UNLESS that person making the hire is an alum of one of the schools.</p>
<p>Illinois vs. Michigan as far as school comparison??..pretty much a tie…and I don’t like EITHER of them…but that is because of Big Ten reasons and I am a Big Ten alum.</p>
<p>Wow, rjk, where did I ever imply that UIUC was better than Harvard? I didn’t even say it was better than Michigan, though from the sounds of it YOU would argue that Mihigan is better than Harvard.</p>
<p>Fact: the definition of “across the board” means in every category.</p>
<p>Fact: UIUC is better in SOME areas, most importantly for this discussion, computer science, and despite how delusional you may be, is not that far behind UMich overall.</p>
<p>You can sit and argue that UMich is the greatest university ever and that UIUC is a joke in comparisson, but that is only going to make you less credible to everyone around here. Yes, UMich is the better overall school. No, it is not better “across the board.”</p>
<p>I think arguing semantics is pointless… because if it comes down to that then the grounds for comparison have negligible differences.</p>
<p>UIUC is a little better in CS (which is probably negligible), but over all U of M is a much more prestigious university. U of M has more money and resources than UIUC, and for your minor/HU/SS classes, chances are you’ll have a better experience at U of M. The city of Ann Arbor is also awesome. IDK how Champaign is, but last time I went to UIUC’s thread on CC, LOTS of people were saying negative things about the look of the campus.</p>
<p>I got accepted to both U of M and UIUC for computer science, and I’m going to U of M. Even if cost weren’t an issue, I’d choose U of M without hesitation.</p>
<p>aren’t they the same thing, Big Ten, public, similar ranks, both in the midwest, cost is same, size of programs is same, general prestige is same, etc… I mean really saying one is better than the other is pretty dumb don’t you think?</p>
<p>^They may have been similar at one point, but U of M is much more prestigious than most other schools in the big ten.</p>
<p>^ after 5 years in the industry…the industry will not care between a UIUC grad and a UMich grad.</p>
<p>The computer science programs at UM and UI are both highly ranked. But I wouldn’t put much weight on the university “prestige” factor mentioned above. I think some of the perception that UM is more prestigious over other Big 10 is because they don’t offer education in the “lower prestige” (lower SAT/ACT) programs, such as agriculture. If possible for those schools you are considering, compare the student profiles and the courses/opportunities offered by the computer science program.</p>
<p>Yeah I’ve never run into anyone in industry or academia who would consider UMich to be “much more prestigious.” Seriously, if you can’t get over yourselves enough to offer this guy some sound advice then I don’t understand why ou are even here. The two schools are essentially a wash and it should come down to the OP visiting and choosing between the two.</p>
<p>If it was ME…since I like a blend of computer science and math, I would choose UIUC but of course I am thinking grad school. Since UIUC has so many cross-listed CS/Math courses, I like the fact that I could earn a graduate math degree and the same 10 courses could be re-arranged and I would have a graduate CS degree.</p>
<p>That is just me.</p>
<p>Michigan is top ten in math and engineering and many other disciplines as well. UIUC is a good school, but it isn’t Michigan.</p>
<p>“I think some of the perception that UM is more prestigious over other Big 10 is because they don’t offer education in the “lower prestige” (lower SAT/ACT) programs, such as agriculture.”</p>
<p>It is more prestigious because it has more top ten departments in it than ANY other B10 school, among other things. All state schools are not created equal, even those in the B10.</p>
<p>“aren’t they the same thing, Big Ten, public, similar ranks, both in the midwest, cost is same, size of programs is same, general prestige is same, etc… I mean really saying one is better than the other is pretty dumb don’t you think?”</p>
<p>No, I don’t think it’s pretty dumb at all. Michigan>UIUC.</p>
<p>“Fact: UIUC is better in SOME areas, most importantly for this discussion, computer science, and despite how delusional you may be, is not that far behind UMich overall.”</p>
<p>The fact is that UIUC is behind Michigan overall. That was my original point.</p>
<p>I would challenge you to find a hiring manager from a major companybthat wasn’t a grad of either school who would hire one over the other on principle. It just doesn’t happen. Mihigan is the overall better school but not by a much as some on here seem to be implying.</p>
<p>^^^^I could imagine graduates of the business school at Michigan, for one example, would be hired over a graduate of the business school at Illinois. You’re just assuming the OP will stick with engineering. Many students change their minds from the time they start school until the time they decide on a major. Another reason why the OP should go to U-M.</p>
<p>As of June 2009 there were 1,655 students enrolled in the MBA program at Michigan. There were 962 students enrolled in the MBA program at Illinois.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure…as big as the USA is that neither of those schools are affecting each other’s hiring.</p>
<p>Additionally, UIUC is no slouh in business either. Michigan is better at leas somewhat in every category except accountancy to my knowledge, but UIUC is still a top 25ish business school, so it isn’t going to affect you that much. Also, I am apparently having trouble consistently typing the word Michigan correctly on this phone, haha</p>
<p>"As of June 2009 there were 1,655 students enrolled in the MBA program at Michigan. There were 962 students enrolled in the MBA program at Illinois.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure…as big as the USA is that neither of those schools are affecting each other’s hiring."</p>
<p>Michigan is a target school for the top companies and positions in America for business. Illinois is not. Business is not like engineering when it comes to recruiting. I do agree that they really don’t affect each other’s hiring. Illinois graduates, most times, are not going to take jobs away from Michigan graduates in business. By the way, I was referring to the UG degree, not an MBA.</p>
<p>1) what I your evidence of Illinois not being targeted by top firms in business (I don’t honestly know, I am not a business guy). I know it is in accountacy but I have no idea about the rest of it. I do know plenty of people who went on to places like the Big Four (or however many there are now).</p>
<p>2) I doubt the OP cares about the business school much since he is interested in computer science.</p>