<p>Hello everyone. I was wondering about the employment opportunities through Ross, and how great they are vs. other schools in Mich. I got into LSA intending to major in comp sci, but I feel like comp sci wouldn't help me with my career goals. I want to either do management consulting or investment banking (MBB consulting would be the ultimate goal), which I believe can only be achieved by the majors offered through Ross or LSA econ? (maybe IOE can land a lot of consulting opportunities idk) But basically, I'm not sure which combination with majors/minors could actually work. Should I try to get into Ross, stick with comp sci (would i still be able to do some sort of tech consulting with a comp sci degree?) and minor in something else, or major in Economics? What do most people do to get a solid job in one of those areas? Thanks!</p>
<p>If you want a consulting job, you can stay in LSA or switch to Ross or to the CoE. All three are recruited by major consulting firms, but getting a job in consulting is by no means guaranteed regardless of major. If you want a job in IB, then Ross is the best way to go fo sure.</p>
<p>Ahhh thanks! But what majors do people usually assume to get a good consulting job? </p>
<p>as alexandre said, it’s possible to get an MBB offer from any school at UM, but i’d say the majority of offers (for undergrads, at least) go to ross students as the bschool has a more well-developed recruiting infrastructure. </p>
<p>Both consulting and banking are much much easier to get out of Ross than any of the other schools. Consulting is accessible but more difficult though CoE and LSA but it’s still harder. Banking is virtually impossible not through Ross. </p>
<p>If your goal is for management consulting or investment banking you should be in Ross. Sure, it’s not impossible from LSA or CoE, but it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to take that route. </p>
<p>But when you say you’re interested in either of those, it sounds like you’re just going for high pay, right? If so, you should note that that’s a hard route to go, and your career will be filled with very very long working hours. Your career earnings might be lower in CS, but it’s still pretty good and your hours will be much better. </p>
<p>If you are thinking about consulting companies like Deloitte, Accenture, etc., they are looking for people with some business savvy, but they are looking more for smarts, communication skills, and hard workers. You can get a job with them via LSA (say, Econ & some comp sci classes), or via Ross. Ross gets more interview schedules posted from them, I suspect. But you don’t HAVE to interview through the school interview process; I am a Ross graduate, and later (post-graduation) was able to get an interview by sending a resume to one of the local offices of one of those firms. </p>
<p>If you are looking more at McKinsey type consulting or IB, Ross is definitely the best route, although MBAs get a lot more of those offers than BBAs do…</p>
<p>OP, I will add that while I have a Ross BBA, I did take some elective CS courses as well. It has proven to be a good combo in the business world.</p>
<p>@intparent Thats an amazing combo actually, the Ross with some comp sci classes. But can a bachelors in CS alone eventually lead to some sort of consulting job, with maybe a minor in econ? (accompanied by an MBA after some experience) Basically I don’t want to become a programmer. I want a job where I can show communication skills/some leadership off the bat, because I think I’ll be better with something like that. </p>
<p>Yes, it certainly could. A large volume of their business is system integration work. But those firms are looking for poise and communications skills in their interview processes, which not all CS majors can show, so work on those skills as well.</p>
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<p>I’ll just say it again, maybe it’ll stick.</p>
<p>Yes, it could. It’s not impossible. But that’s just a bad way to reach your goals. It’s much easier to get there with a BBA. </p>
<p>“maybe IOE can land a lot of consulting opportunities idk”</p>
<p>Yes it can. I know IOEs you have received offers from places like Deloitte and Bain.</p>
<p>My friend’s daughter went to Ross and took a couple of computer classes. She got a consulting job from a company in Chicago doing computer related finance(turned down Microsoft which her mom wanted so bad). She has worked for 3 years now and according to her brother that she is making mid-100k already. Her first 6 months was sitting at home and getting paid. She has been traveling around the world with job assignments. So very good reward. But when she is on an assignment, she gets up at 6 am and work till 6 pm, then go to working dinner with other team members (discussing what happened during dinner) until 10 pm. She is definitely changing career path down the road.</p>
<p>I’d love to see data that suggests otherwise, but we were told the top 3 consulting firms don’t really recruit Ross BBAs. The main companies we were like the Big 4 accounting/consulting firms and like a treasury analyst for JP Morgan. From everything we were told and show, the chance of being a MBB hire from Ross undergrad is <1%.</p>
<p>^That’s just patently false. Ross is a target school for all of MBB. Here’s the Ross 2013 hiring data:</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentData2013.pdf”>https://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentData2013.pdf</a></p>
<p>Ross represents very well at all of MBB as well as PwC, Deloitte, Booz/Strategy&, Accenture, etc.</p>
<p>Out of the 283 students seeking employment in the BBA class of 2018, 10 of them landed jobs at MBB. So 3-4% got a job at a top consulting firm. Not everyone is gunning to work for a MBB firm.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentData2013.pdf”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentData2013.pdf</a></p>
<p>Don’t about 500 graduate with a BBA each year? If only 10 report working for a MBB firm, which offers about the most occupational prestige of any BBA offer (i.e. vastly more likely to fill out job placement survey), then that’s <2%, yes? Gunning to be in the top 2% when you weren’t even a PA is certainly ambitious.</p>
<p>Not a lot of MBB hiring directly for any undergrad program in the country, they like MBAs. But there are certainly great careers to be made with those other four companies, or by starting there and jumping to a client after a few years. </p>
<p>About 400 graduate. Just because around 2% of students get MBB jobs does not mean the chances of getting a MBB job is 2%. Many of those 400 students are aiming for jobs in other areas such as finance and marketing. As intparent said, many of those firms do not hire aggressively for ungrad programs. </p>
<p>If you’re trying to get into Ross, I’d avoid taking EECS 203 and 280 freshman year and just stick to EECS 183. </p>