Is it necessary to take computer science class in High school to be competitive candidate for top computer science departments for ORM girl?
Math Track is BC Calculus in 11th grade and Multi variable calculus/ Linear Algebra in 12th grade
A lot of problem due to scheduling issues, that is why we are asking
Not necessary. But, if aiming high, you should get in all the math and all the the lab sci with rigor, if the hs offers it. And the right math-sci activities. You can’t assume just claiming interest is enough.
She is taking AP chem as 10th grader, AP Physics 11th grade, AP Bio 12 th grade, HS is a very famous prep school and offers classes
I don’t know what an ORM is but…
many students in CS in top schools have their first exposures of CS in college.
I thought you went to college to learn the field.
Don’t fret too much.
Anyways for the answer to your question: No, you don’t need to take CS courses to get into top CS schools. Otherwise, almost no one in the US would get accepted for CS.
I believe ORM is over-represented minority, aka, Asian. I never noticed the term until this thread, and I had to look it up.
Yes a Korean girl interested in math/computer science and engineering
@Zinhead, thanks for this link in other thread.
The following website tracks faculty placement. You might have to change the hiring network to computer science in the upper left hand corner.
http://danlarremore.com/faculty/
The top 10 for CS faculty placement is:
1 - Stanford
2 - Berkeley
3 - MIT
4 - CalTech
5 - Harvard
6 - Cornell
7 - Carnegie Mellon
8 - Princeton
9 - Yale
10 - University of Washington
On the other hand, a friend works at a technology related law firm in downtown San Francisco, and he tells me that if you don’t have someone with a degree from Stanford, Berkeley or Harvard on your team, it is much more difficult to get money for a startup.
@AccCreate Thanks for this in other thread
Just follow by the USNews ranking and look at the private schools.
It’s more or less the actual ranking in terms of need based aid.
Generally from my experience I noted that:
Harvard, Princeton has the best financial aid
then Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT
then WuStL, CalTech, Duke, UPenn, etc.
That said, overall I feel the USNews primarily ranks its privates by how good the need based aid is.
It’s honestly the one of the very few reasons I actually like the USNews undergrad rankings.
I have quite a lot about the rankings I disagree in the USNews but it does seem to be a good indicator of which private schools have good need based.
FWIW, when we toured MIT, they said that they had CS classes for potential CS major that had never taken a CS class before.
Do you live in Korea or the US? That can make a big difference
Thanks
@collegedad13 - US citizen (race is Korean) going to a northeast prep school top 10% - school does not rank
How is need based (or merit based) aid for Berkeley, UUIC, UT Austin and Georgia Tech for out of state candidate?
I live in California and as far as I know need based aid for Berkeley for out of state candidate is non existent
Out of state with those schools are more or less non existent for aid.
Expect to be paying full for places like Berkeley, UIUC, UT Austin, Georgia Tech.
I mean Georgia Tech “does” have stuffs like Provost Scholarship, Stamps President’s Scholarship, etc. but do not bet on it. Chances are, unless you have an extremely “interesting” background, you aren’t going to get it.
And I’m sure it’s the same for the other schools you mentioned.
In general, need based is non-existent in public schools. Especially in the top public unless your family is super super poor and you have dealt with much hardships.
Private schools because of this generally tend to be more affordable or at least around the same price as out of state schools for most students.
And just note the super top privates tend to have phenomenal financial aid. A family earning 90k$ income would have to pay around 3,600 a year for tuition & fees + room & board (basically everything but your own “travel” and “cloth” and “textbook” and “insurance” expenses which is usually paid by work study of around 3,000 -and 1,500 in summer-) in Harvard.
That same family in out of state like berkeley would be paying $58k a year alone in Berkeley in tuition/fees/room/board and don’t forget, this excludes also travel/cloth/textbook/insurance which usually ends up driving that number to around 65k$ a year with no guaranteed work study.
Personal advice: Apply to privates and instate. Some out of state is fine but don’t expect financial aid especially in the more competitive state schools.
And note there is a NOTICEABLE bump in financial aid even in inbetween schools such as Harvard and Stanford. Each school does its financial aid system differently and as far as I know it, Harvard and Princeton might be one of the very few if not the only that does not count your home as a liquidity value in itself (implying if you live in a more wealthier community, other schools such as Yale, Columbia, MIT, Stanford will often give less financial aid overall)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmb5Ld8i3vg
Not my school and I don’t endorse these videos (I tend to disagree a lot about them) but this is how the financial aid system works in the top elite schools.
Just do note that from my experience, there becomes a noticeable drop even among privates in need based aid after the top 20 schools in the USNews.
thank you @AccCreate, those colleges are very hard to get into.
thanks @Zinhead and @collegedad13
ORM also stands for Object/Relational Mapping (in computer science) and Operations Research and Management (in engineering and business). I did a double take on this thread! Useful info, thanks all.