Computers for Performance Majors?

<p>Part of the Mac/PC decision depends on the local culture at the campus. Unless you are prepared to perform your own tech support, you will want to find out whether one or the other is the dominant machine in use. Many schools have enough of a community using both that it may be a non-issue, but that is not true everywhere.</p>

<p>My son has a Mac at a school where almost everyone uses PCs. There are a few Macs here and there, but the school IT folks could not even help him replace a hard drive under the AppleCare warranty, a very simple operation, because they were not an official Apple service center. He had the choice of having to go to the nearest Apple store for same day service (60 miles away and he has no car) or of mailing it away and being without it for a couple of weeks.</p>

<p>I’m resurrecting this thread because it’s annual “What the heck to I get my music student” time. I enjoyed re-reading it, and was wondering if some of the new toys on the market change the answers. (I’m thinking of things like the Flip Video).
Even though we’re a PC family, we were going to go with a mac for D since she’s going into music ed - thinking that a lot of high schools use macs, and so on. But - given the price point difference, we’re both waffling.<br>
Tell me - what did you get for your child, and what has been their experience? Thanks!</p>

<p>We have two PC’s and 2 Macs, as the PC’s die we buy Macs. Son has a Mac at school (performance/music ed). To me having been a life long PC user, I don’t think I will ever buy another PC again. I hear Windows 7 is very good but the truth is our Macs have performed flawlessly since day one. Are they worth the extra money ? I guess to me they are and we are by no means having an easy time financially but the truth is I have way less stress with the Macs than with the PCs and that is a good thing :-))</p>

<p>The Mac versus PC debate is as old as, well, the Mac, and there are pluses and minuses to both platforms. </p>

<p>With a PC you are buying an environment that simply because of its size (it is something like 90% of the market) has a lot more product support then the Mac. Price wise you get a lot more from a pc over a comparable Mac (yeah, I have heard all the claims, that the Mac OS is more efficient, etc, but the truth is that for what you pay for a macbook for example you get a lot more of a pc laptop, more memory, larger hard drives and so forth). For what a macbook charges for a 13" screen, you can get a PC laptop with a 17" display.</p>

<p>The Mac is definitely easier to use in many cases, even with windows 7, and quite frankly is more well behaved, you don’t have the crashes and freeze ups that plague the pc world still.
And because the Mac environment is so closely controlled, there is little chance of the weird issues you still see with PC’s. </p>

<p>In terms of graphics and recording, there is no technical limitation on the PC, the kind of graphics cards they have on the PC, combined with the bus structure, means that the advantage the mac once had with unique sound and video processing in effect no longer exists, and even if you put high end graphics and audio cards in a pc it is going to be a lot cheaper still. </p>

<p>Where the mac can kill you is if something goes wrong. On a pc, if the motherboard goes (or even in a laptop for that matter), it is a generic item, and you can fix it pretty easily. On a Mac, their so called ‘logic boards’ have a lot of functions integrated on the board, and if it goes you are looking at a pretty expensive repair (for a macbook, you might as well buy a new one). When my son first got his macbook, the network port went, and to fix it required a new logic board. If it wasn’t in warranty, we would have faced a 900 buck bill. (I strongly, strongly, recommend getting the applecare package; for the piece of mind, it is really, really worth it, given the cost of repairing the unit). </p>

<p>BTW, one of the reasons that the Mac is used in schools is why Apple computers have been heavy in schools since the days of the Apple II. Apple gives huge discounts to educational users like schools, they get stuff for incredibly low prices and has always pushed their products actively in the educational sector. Schools don’t buy Macs because they are better, as some of the mac evangelists try to claim, they buy them because they get deals too good to pass up (which is fine).</p>

<p>As far as viruses and such go, I agree it is probably unwise to take it by chance. Yeah, the overwhelming bulk of the viruses and malware out there are written for the Windows platform, but to assume that means the mac is safe is playing russian roulette (surfing the web on a pc without anti virus and firewall protection is like playing russian roulette with 3 bullets in the gun, with a mac it is 1, but still russian roulette). For one thing, the Mac runs on a Unix base, and there are trojan horses and the like written for unix and its variants that could hit that. More importantly, the people writing this stuff, especially the malware designed to steal personal information, is not going to overlook something with 10% market share (or more, depends on who you talk to). There are free products out there, like the Clam products someone mentioned, that work really well, and at that price it would be kind of crazy not to protect yourself IMO.</p>

<p>Okay, but which one to buy? Besides the obvious criteria, if the school wants you to use certain products that are available only on X platform (for example, pro logic recording software, which I don’t believe is available on the pc, I may be wrong), then it comes down to cost and personal preference. Having both pc’s and mac’s and seeing how they work, I will tell you you can’t go wrong with either platform, and also that I have seen as many problems with macs as with pcs (macbooks are notoriously bad with their batteries, for example, or with issues with the plastic on the cases cracking in certain areas, the pc laptops with batteries, and also issues with their keyboards [which can be replaced]). </p>

<p>That said, if you can afford it you may want to go with the Mac, if for anything the fact that it is still the predominant platform on the music side, which means if you need help at 2am you probably can find a machead to help, among other things, and it is a nice machine. One way to save some significant money is to check when Apple runs sales on recondiitioned laptops, you can get a for all intents and purposes new macbook for a fraction of what it costs new (for example, a 1300 dollar macbook for 900). If you do get the macbook, I recommend the applecare package, which while not cheap, can end up being a lifesaver when things go wrong. </p>

<p>Just my opinion.</p>

<p>Even with the Applecare package, put the computer on your personal articles policy affiliated with your homeowner’s insurance. Applecare does not cover spilling something on the keyboard or dropping it and breaking the monitor. The personal articles will cover everything and typically has no deductible.</p>

<p>Good point, catera, or theft and so forth. </p>

<p>One other point, Macs can run windows software (intel based macs). There are a couple of ways to do it, you can use bootcamp (which is semi supported from what I can tell), that allows you to boot the mac as either a mac os or windows. The one I would recommend is Parallels, which allows you to run a windows session as an application under the Mac OS, which has the advantage of allowing you to run windows and mac apps at the same time. It requires you to buy, besides the program, a copy of windows , and I would recommend having a large hard drive (which I would anyway), since windows takes up significant disk space. Seeing what our Mac Gurus do at work on it, the only conflicts I have seen are in areas that few users would see. The nice part is given the speed of the machines these days, you don’t really notice any kind of significant performance degredation running windows apps under the Mac.</p>

<p>Re: applecare. A few weeks ago daughter’s monitor went haywire after she dropped the laptop, albeit from a short distance, onto carpet. Apple fixed it, no charge. They FedExed a box; had FedEx send it back, and the whole thing was completed in under 48 hours. We’ve had 6 Apple laptops over their years and all of their hard drives have been replaced under warranty. When I call Apple for help, I wait only about 5 minutes to talk to a real person, and they are extremely supportive. The customer support (my praise doesn’t extend to iTunes issues, only computer hardware and software) is really excellent.</p>

<p>glassharmonica - you may have just been lucky. Applecare does not cover user damage, including dropping the computer. Others should not count on coverage. If they can’t tell it has been dropped, they might cover it, but if they know, they will likely not cover it.</p>

<p>One of the schools on D’s short list has already contacted her and told her that she will need to buy a Mac, much to the consternation of her solidly-PC father. I wish they’d be as prompt about getting back to us with information we ASK for [logging off now to make that phone call. Again. Sigh.]</p>

<p>True, they probably could not tell it was dropped-- it was dropped about 2 feet onto soft carpet (and we don’t know for sure if that was the cause of the monitor stripe.) But it remains that our 6 laptops and one of the desktops have had hard drives replaced at no charge under Applecare (no user abuse, but hard drives do fail over a period of years, particularly laptop drives.) Always a good idea up all your data. And my larger point is that Apple support is accessible by phone.</p>

<p>My D wouldn’t trade her MAC for a PC. We had been a PC only family prior to this and I have still have a cheap Dell. I lust after the lit keyboard on her MAC.</p>

<p>weighing in here…we were a pc only family until D started planning for college (current freshman). We bought hers about 9 mos before she left. She is a non techie (non music) kid so Apple Care was purchased as well. After using her system before she left, I couldn’t wait to replace my own laptop with a macbook when the time came. We have 7 computers total (small business owners) and I handle the maintenance on them all (uugghh). </p>

<p>Needless to say we now own 3 macbooks, a netbook and 3 PC’s. Guess what doesn’t need any maintenance? Honestly…I’ve never been happier! PS: Music S has both a macbook mainly for recording/writing and using as a music library and a PC that he does pretty much everything else on. </p>

<p>btw…I’m typing this on my mac at my office while I strip the hard drive on the PC which was infected by a rogue malware program…just finished the final scan after 8 hours. This is the second pc system I’ve cleaned in the last 3 months (with virus/malware protection) and have yet to have anything happen with any of the macbooks! Yes, they cost more but really, you get what you pay for. I’ve saved so much time and money with the mac’s (not to mention avoiding middle of the night calls from D across the country!)</p>