<p>Can you be accepted only under a certain condition? I heard that someone I knew got accepted last year only under the condition that he keeps all his grades above a B... Does Penn do this?</p>
<p>other than not accepting you if you do terribly, which all schools do, i doubt it does that kind of thing.</p>
<p>putting a lower limit like that doesn't actually affect the caliber of the students they accept (especially since they dont have to worry at all about accepting students who maybe couldn't handle the workload), so I don't see why they would</p>
<p>that would suck to be accepted and then get a C in like Calc BC...</p>
<p>i doubt they'd mind a c on the transcript</p>
<p>besides you have to go out of your way to get c's and d's on everything</p>
<p>Actually, I personally know a freshman who had to finish LINEAR ALGEBRA and MULTIVARIABLE CALCULUS (which were optional courses for his school) or his acceptance would be rescinded.</p>
<p>I think all acceptances are "conditional" - but the standard is lower than you might expect. If you actually fail your senior classes, they'll rescind your admission, but if you get all C's, you're still fine.</p>
<p>That said, don't give up after you get admitted. This isn't the end of the work; it's the beginning. Taking AP or IB classes? Work your butt off to get as good a grade as you can so that you can test out of classes. Do well in your math classes - the foundation is crucial. You want to enter college with a lot of momentum, and burning out or slacking off through the end of senior year makes it that much harder to get started again in the fall.</p>
<p>MattWonder -</p>
<p>How much did AP credit help you at Penn. I understand that they don't waive courses for AP credit - is that accurate?</p>
<p>I came in with 12 AP credits. It's made it possible for me to graduate in 3.5 years from M&T. (But I'll be staying for the full 4 - college is too much fun)</p>
<p>Some AP credits are more helpful than others. English is a waste, but Math is VERY helpful. CompSci helped me out a lot, but they've scaled that back some. Physics was huge - 1 class for me in HS got me out of ~3 in college. Other sciences are helpful.</p>
<p>I was able to use my euro class for a global, and ushistory as a ssh class. Foreign language is huge if you're in the college or wharton: a 4 gets you out of the requirement. </p>
<p>It really depends on your degree program, and your ap credits. AP English and AP Govt are worthless, but AP Calc and AP Physics are (imho) essential. Econ isn't worth it anymore, and neither is stats, really. </p>
<p>Of course, you need to have 5s to get anywhere. Check out the penn ap site for the current version - but keep in mind that things may vary (for some majors, AP bio/chem counts as a science credit. for others, you need the more rigorous penn classes)</p>
<p>mattwonder- </p>
<p>why do you say that credits for econ and stat aren't "worth it"? I will be entering college with credit for macro, micro, calc, multivar/linear alg, and (probably) stat. Wouldn't that help me out for credits and course placement??</p>
<p>It must depend upon the college. For CAS you don't get much, and you don't get out of distribution requirements.</p>
<p>I think there may be some confusion here - I was speaking about AP credit. If you have college credit (and I assume you do, because there's no multivar/linear alg AP test) that you know will transfer in to your school, you'll be in good shape.</p>
<p>At Penn, (in Wharton, at least) Econ and Stat are taught at a different level than what is offered in AP. Stat AP gives credit for 111 (or 101 after you take 102), but it really depends on what major you're in - you may end up needing to take the class over again. </p>
<p>If you have econ credit for both micro and macro, you can get Econ 010 "waived" - which means you still need to take a credit. When Wharton reformed their econ curriculum, they kind of broke the macro/micro division, and it's complicated now. For both Stat and Econ, you don't get the straightforward benefit that you do with science or calc.</p>
<p>Basically, I was trying to illustrate that it really matters what major you're in and what AP credit you have. Wharton, SEAS, the College, and Nursing all have very different requirements for graduation, and therefore give different credit from APs. Look around at the different pages for the different schools. College transfer credit is a different matter. </p>
<p>Whaat, in your case specifically it depends on which major you'll be going into. Engineering will give you elective credit for the econs, and possibly credit for the multivar/alg. Wharton will give you a single credit if you 5 both econs, and will give you 1 calc credit, and maybe stat. The college will give you credit for almost everything (low standards, maybe?) but it depends on your major (an econ major would need those classes the most but is least likely to get them)</p>
<p>You know what they say about the name of Penn's AP Policy:</p>
<p>"F*** you, you're doing it again."</p>