Conditions of Admission

<p>For berkeley acceptees, the first condition of admission is "Complete all senior-year courses listed on your application with an overall unweighted B average for each term and no grade lower than a C. Immediately notify us, in writing: if you did not meet the grade point average condition for any term of your senior year; or of any changes to your senior year class schedule." When transcripts are sent to berkeley, by "no grade lower than a C" do they mean individual, marking period grades? or do they mean averaged, final course grades? And am I right in assuming that anything below a C is roughly below a 70 out of 100? Thank you!</p>

<p>okay. no offense, but it’s written pretty clearly…</p>

<p>-look @ all of your senior courses listed on your application
-take their unweighted average (gpa avg of the letter grades you earn)
-if this average is below a B, you’re in trouble
-also, if any one grade is below a C, you are in trouble </p>

<p>ex:</p>

<p>A,B,C: OK
B,B,B: OK
B,C,C: NOT OK
A,A,D: NOT OK</p>

<p>and it depends on your HS and your professors. what is a C to them? are your courses based on a curve? if everyone else in the class gets 10% on all the tests, and you get a 15%, do you get an A+? likewise, if everyone gets 100% on all the hws and tests, and you get a 90%, do you get a C? % isn’t important, what you get on your report card is.</p>

<p>So if hypothetically I have a satisfactory final average, but a single marking period grade D, am I automatically rescinded?</p>

<p>Yes. (10chars)</p>

<p>No, marking periods are not official and are not kept on record. They’re just progress reports, the only grades that EVER matter are the final semester grades that are kept on record. Getting an F for a marking period (or quarter) is fine as long as you can pull it up to at least a C by the semester.</p>

<p>Term means semester, unless your high school is on a different system like quarters, but it means the one final, official grade for each class. Doesn’t matter what interim grade you are given (as ApTester clearly explains it, these are just informal progress reports, guidance for changing your study approach). All that counts is the final grade. </p>

<p>If you are on the common semester system, and you are in a class for Spring semester, you can’t finish that class with a recorded grade below C. If you do, you have not met the conditions of acceptance. Same with the UW GPA requirement. The UW GPA for either of those semesters can’t be below 3.0 or you don’t meet the conditions of acceptance. Not cumulative GPA, just the GPA for that one semester taken by itself.</p>

<p>So what matters are the terms/semesters that the individual marking periods average into? Like if I have two marking periods per semester, one A and one D, averaging to above a C, that’s fine?</p>

<p>No, DO NOT get a D under all circumstances.</p>

<p>Edit: As your final grade for semester/trimester w/e.</p>

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<p>i thought the ability to read was a pretty important prerequisite for college admission…</p>

<p>He’s asking about an A and a D in the same class… don’t be so quick to judge</p>

<p>Interesting that UCLA and Cal do not use the same conditional admission language –</p>

<p>This is UCLA’s exact language, starting in the 2nd sentence:</p>

<p>"You must complete the senior year academic classes listed on your application with at least a minimum overall unweighted B average. You must notify our office if your grades drop significantly, you receive an excess number of C grades, you receive any D or F grades, or your class schedule changes. "</p>

<p>While both UCLA and Berkeley disallow D and F grades, UCLA stipulates a “minimum OVERALL unweighted B average” – which implies the 3.0 is for the aggregated 1st and 2nd semester grades. I interpret UCLA’s language to mean that a student may have BBBAA in 1st semester, then CCCAB in 2nd semester, for an OVERALL Sr. Yr. a-g GPA of 3.0. In this example, UCLA’s language is satisfied, and Berkeley’s most certainly is not.</p>

<p>So, if anybody out there got into both schools and prefers Berkeley, and will likely satisfy UCLA’s language but not Berkeley’s “B average for EACH term” (as estimated on May 1… you won’t know for sure until mid June depending on HS calendar) then you should consider SIR’ing to both until you know for sure you satisfied Berkeley’s language.</p>

<p>Note other differences:</p>

<p>Cal says OVERALL average and UCLA says ACADEMIC classes – unless OP omitted reference to ACADEMIC classes re Cal. Does that mean any a-g classes, incl. visual/performing arts? </p>

<p>Also, *excess number of C grades" is pretty darn vague. Does that mean if 50% are Cs and the other 50% are As, the student is disqualified? What if the student has two Bs but beyond that has a balanced set of As and Cs (like five each spread over both semesters); is that an excessive number of Cs?</p>

<p>This shouldn’t even be a problem if you were able to get into Berkeley in the first place. Go to class.</p>

<p>What does “overall” GPA refer to? Simply UC-Approved (a-g) courses? or all grades?</p>

<p>I think overall means ALL the classes on your current schedule</p>

<p>so Physical Education counts?</p>

<p>I believe this should answer your question: “Complete all senior-year courses listed on your application.” – If its listed, then it counts.</p>

<p>Just to confirm : my academic year is split up into 4 marking periods (quarters). If I maintain an average at or over a B, and don’t have any final grades below a C, will I be fine? for example, let’s say I have four classes with a grade each quarter</p>

<p>Q1 A, A, D, B
Q2 A, D, A, B
Q3 B, B, B, B
Q4 B, B, A, C
final B, C, B, B
overall average B</p>

<p>I have one or two D quarters in specific classes, but all my final class grades are C and above. Also as described, my final average is above a B. Am I right in saying that quarters do not matter?</p>