<p>Clearly you know very little about Cornell’s atmosphere.</p>
<p>same reason as for most, MIT is like 10 times harder to get in</p>
<p>Also I think we are splitting hairs they are the top 10 engineering programs in usnwr. Let’s all relax. Poolboy I wish you good luck I do not wish to debate any further. I hope everybody who applied to Cornell gets admitted. Good Luck to all.</p>
<p>one more day to go, this is crazy, although my SAT scores will probably keep me out unless Cornell truly does look at the whole student…
Anyway this is my first CC post and I find it fitting to do so on this thread 
Good luck everybody with tomorrow!!
Go HumanEc!</p>
<p>one more day…</p>
<p>Englander, I’m convinced you are full of it. </p>
<p>Do you know why it’s so hard to be accepted after you are deferred? It’s because if you can’t make it in ED, you can’t make it in RD. Furthermore, to say that the ED pool is “full of legacies and athletes” is fallacious - out of approximately 1200 spots, you want to tell me that they field 600 athletes and legacies? Cornell announced that the class of 2014 was comprised of 11% legacies - that means that out of 3100 spots, both RD and ED, that is only 340 legacies. </p>
<p>Now consider the NCAA teams: there are 36 varsity sports at Cornell. At the point where most of these teams have between 10-30 students, there’s now way each team would recruit more than 1-7 students. To that end, <em>AT A MAXIMUM</em>, legacies + athletes make up about 500 accepted slots in ED - and even then, this would be assuming EVERY SINGLE athlete and legacy was accepted ED (very unlikely considering there are bound to be many students who are legacies/athletes and who apply/get in during the RD period). Additionally, you forget that the ivies have an explicit academic eligibility scale - students must meet a certain academic index before they are recruited. No offense, but I’m sure there are some athletes on Big Red teams who would smoke you academically; many of the students who play on these varsity teams are true scholar athletes who were RD applicants who walked onto some of the smaller teams (like crew). </p>
<p>The likely number of spots taken up by legacies/athletes is ~300 out of 1200. Cornell receives around 3500 applicants in the ED round and <em>30,000</em> applicants in the RD round - that’s just 1900 spots for 30,000 students! Clearly, if you’re playing the odds, you have a better shot in the ED pool.</p>
<p>Now consider the statistics:
You say that Cornell is bad because it is at best a 2nd choice school to the likes of HYPS or MIT. To that end, you have weaker students getting in during the ED round than in the RD round because many of those HYPS and MIT students will be applying to Cornell as a (relative) safety school [ as some of my friends are doing… ]. Congrats if you applied RD, you screwed yourself in the more competitive pool; your 2200 SAT score and 3.7 UW GPA just won’t cut it against the likes of Harvard-bound valedictorians with 4.0 GPAs and 2400 SAT scores.</p>
<p>@MT, thanks for saying all that, kind of what I was thinking myself.
I agree with you
but it seems that most of the 340 legacies were probably ed, and sports probably takes up about 300 more (36 teams x an average of 7 recruits).<br>
basketball alone recruited 11 freshman last year according to the web site from their athletics
So the total legacy admits - which are probably mostly ed is, by their own statement about 340, combined with about 300 athletes - which are always ed, adds up to 640.
so it could be that about half the ed admits are somehow hooked
leaving the other half to battle it out for only one half the spots</p>
<p>so tomorrow are any of you guys going to do that red/yellow/green bracket thing of accepted,deferred, or rejected? Just wondering haha</p>
<p>Even if bball did recruit 11 freshmen (which I HIGHLY doubt), you still have to take into account the fact that many other teams don’t recruit 7 freshmen a year (a la Squash or Equestrian)</p>
<p>Football and maybe lacrosse recruit more (women’s lacrosse, too). then there’s soccer -do they have soccer teams?</p>
<p>thirteen men recruited 2011 class
eight women </p>
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<p>it would be a shame if englandern was accepted over a student that really wanted to attend.</p>
<p>My guess is that the admissions officers know what they’re doing and can’t be fooled. We’re banking on that!</p>
<p>recruited does not equal accepted</p>
<p>I don’t understand what you are saying? I thought if you are recruited and commit you are accepted?</p>
<p>not at an IVY. Being recruited is a hook, I’m sure for some elite athletes it may be a BIG hook but not you still need to be accepted. I am recruited at MIT just a hook but you still need numbers etc.</p>
<p>I know somebody who is was recruited by an ivy and his parents indicated he is in. This occurred last year while he was a junior(HYP school).</p>
<p>well we will find out in 24 hours!!!</p>
<p>at smiley - I think you are right, at ivys and probably all colleges, recruited usually is an admit. let’s just hope that cornell leaves enough open spots ed for the unhooked to have a decent shot. all the stuff in other threads on college confidential about the cornell ed myth have me wondering what kind of chance an unhooked has ed if so many spots are filled by athletes, hooked legacy …
at this point, i’ll be happy with even a 20% chance.
I hope cornell, but thiniking i maybe should have gone restrictive ea to BC.</p>
<p>I applied to both Cornell and MIT, I would rather go to Cornell. I love suburbs, and I would probably fit in with kids who are more at my level (aka, cornell) than the MIT kids, who tend to be very nerdy in some ways. I know they all aren’t but the majority is, and I like a big mix. That’s something I can expect at Cornell, not so much MIT. My two best friends are completely split up - one wants to go in to mech engineering, the other psychology. It’d be tough to find variety like that at MIT.</p>
<p>EDIT: And if you’re applying to CoE, early decision alone gives you a 1 in 3 chance.</p>