<p>Wow, thanks for all the great info. I had no idea AEM was harder to get into than Wharton. I guess I'll do ED Wharton and cross my fingers. Or maybe I'll just save my money and go to Bunker Hill Community College. :)</p>
<p>Something to think about, maryjulia - when Goldman/UBS said "we have the highest concentration of new hires from ivies" they're not explicitly stating that they prefer ivies simply because they're ivies. It just means that the ivies have the highest concentration of smart/hardworking/whatever people and it provides a good pool to hire out of. Of course, that might make them stick to recruiting at just ivies.</p>
<p>I have talked to one of the persons you have mentioned in your post. Very much a Cornell person! And the reply I got, "Yes, Ross and McIntire are better in placements. We are bridging the gap very fast". The person is not a student and is honest enough, not to say something factually incorrect. </p>
<p>I don't want to get into any kind of cross-arguments. If you are happy about what you know, it is fine with me.</p>
<p>biggyboy, not saying wharton is harder than aem to get into...it's just simple math there are going to be a LOT more than 4 ppl applying from the South, thus, the chances of getting in will be a lot harder. Whereas, Wharton is bigger and can accept more people. My friend made the mistake by saying "bah, I'll get into aem easily" and she was REJECTED!</p>
<p>Penn, UBS said they don't like ivy kids.
Goldman said they have the highest concentration of ivy kids. But I made them compare to other schools, so it's just diplomacy that they don't say that they prefer ivy kids. </p>
<p>harvardman, i don't understand y sometimes you are defending aem but other times you kill it. I think the only reason y wharton cannot be compared to aem is simply b/c aem is newly accredited and wharton's been there for a long time. You can't compare an old apple w/ a new apple. But the fact that AEM's ranking is 11 (usnews) or 10 (bizweek) and they're new is something commendable and it makes sense to compare the top 10 schools or put them in the same "league".</p>
<p>Also, this goes for anyone, especially rintu. Do take a look at the top recruiters for AEM and you will see that the recruited/number of students ratio for aem and wharton is not that far apart. I looked at UVA's recruitment and am not quite impress, as an investment banker aspiree, that PWC is their top recruiter. Don't get me wrong PWC is great firm, my cousin works there.</p>
<p>no, AEM and Wharton are NOT in the same league... at least for another 30 years. thats not really diminishing AEM's credibility... Wharton is just that good that its in a league by itself. I think renovating Warren Hall would be a good start for AEM to close the gap.</p>
<p>I would choose AEM over any other business undergraduate program though.</p>
<p>This has been a small program with 40 students (expanded to 60 this year) a year and usually half of them go to graduate schools. Considering this, this list is respectable. The MMSS also automatically fulfills all the prereqs for the new undergrad financial economics cerficiate program from Kellogg.</p>
<p>as a northwestern student, i can only speak for mmss. i am not in mmss, im in menu, but mmss students are notoriously successful beyond undergraduate studies. they either make $100k+ right out of undergraduate school or go to business school, and kellogg, which takes many mmss students, is consistently top 3-5 bis. graduate schools each year.</p>
<p>"(Not that I have any chance at the Ivies)"</p>
<p>Then why do you even bother? If you actually think ND Mendoza is better than Cornell AEM because it is ranked higher than newsweek, then maybe you should just stick to ND, since it's not like you have chance at the ivies anyway.</p>
<p>it lumps all the "recent employers" together so i can't get a feel for the actual placements per year. for all we know, maybe GS hired one person in 2006, MS in 2005 etc. (though it probably isn't that way)</p>
<p>I learned the other day that AEM gives As like candies with some classes having A/A+ as median grades!!! You listed grade deflation as its negative when it's the other way around. If you want easy As, AEM is way to go.</p>