<p>I hate people calling SUNY retarted.....I agree it has little to do with Cornell besides money but to call it retarted is wrong. Many people have benefited from SUNY schools....like family members of mine...and I think it's narrow-minded to judge it by Cornell's standards. Cornell works for some...SUNY works for others. That does'nt make it retarted</p>
<p>suny isn't retarded because it's suny ... it's retarded that they take it upon themselves to call Cornell one of their own campuses and how they ride along Cornell's prestige.</p>
<p>Why are parents having unnecessary topics of conversation with teenagers? this topic has been brought up before and is very boring.</p>
<p>In my case, community service. seeeker of Truth. For the benefit of those interested. And re-read my post # 13, first paragraph.</p>
<p>Especially the last sentence of it.</p>
<p>it has been an issue that's been brought up time and time again. At least we now have some legal material and SUNY's stance on the issue.</p>
<p>ok, here is some info that should clear up some questions about the relationshiop between Cornell and SUNY. </p>
<p>read, learn enjoy. For those who are too lazy to click the link, here are some select excerpts from the article:</p>
<p>"In American higher education, particular to the state of New York, a statutory college or contract college is a college or school that is a component of an independent, private university that has been designated by the state legislature to receive significant public funding from the state. The statutory college is operated by the university on behalf of the state, with the mission of serving specific educational needs of the state. New York's statutory colleges are administratively affiliated with the State University of New York (SUNY) system, and receive funding from SUNY's operating budget; however, SUNY ultimately has little control over these colleges admission standards, standards for completion of degrees and which academic programs are offered are determined by the statutory college's private institution. There are four statutory colleges at Cornell University and one at Alfred University."</p>
<p>"The statutory colleges are not state-run; they are operated by either Cornell or Alfred. However, the five existing statutory colleges have been affiliated with SUNY since its inception in 1948 (but had no affiliation with any umbrella organization before 1948). Statutory college employees legally are employees of Cornell and Alfred Universities, not employees of SUNY; this has been subsequently been affirmed by the courts."</p>
<p>"There is debate and confusion about whether the statutory colleges are "public" or "private, nonprofit" entities. Legally, they are private and nonprofit; Cornell and Alfred Universities are private, nonprofit institutions, a status which extends to all of these universities' components. Also, the employees of the statutory colleges are legally (as affirmed by court rulings), private, nonprofit employees. An analogy would be a private, nonprofit health agency which, under contract with a government, regularly receives government money to operate a research institute; the whole private, nonprofit agency (including the research institute) still remains a private, nonprofit entity. New York State's Education Law also states that the statutory colleges are not "state agencies." The fact that each of the statutory colleges contains "New York State" in their official names has not legally and technically altered this private nature of the statutory colleges."</p>
<p>I hope this clears alot of stuff up.</p>
<p>well, that does make sense, however, there are some contradictions around this, on cornell;s own website, it says it has both "private" and "public" colleges as it has a private and public mission</p>
<p>i think it's to make SUNY happy. the happier SUNY is, the more money Cornell gets.</p>