<p>students who would normally be admitted as a freshmen but Cornell didn't have enough room to enroll them as freshmen i suppose. It's not a CC thing. </p>
<p>Also, it's not quite too good to be true; the only people who get them applied as freshmen and wern't admitted as freshmen, they have to pay their dues at another college before stepping up to Cornell.</p>
<p>i like that idea</p>
<p>Yeah, that's a good idea. I wish I'd applied as a freshman.</p>
<p>I wish too...
Anyways, I am a new member; Would you all please give me some advices and information about my situation?!
I intend to transfer to Cornell in my junior year...somebody told me that at that time I will not have to retake SAT in order to transfer to a more respected institution. However, the problem is I deperately need a full need financial aid ( doesn't really matter if it is merit or need based aid)...that is why I am afraid that I have to retake SAT and boost it up
a quick overview of my qualification</p>
<p>. Freshman, second semester in college
. I am in honor program in my LAC
. Current GPA: 3.73
. High school GPA: 4.333
. Good recommendation letters
. trying to find internship this summer
. SAT: intend to retake</p>
<p>also...if you know please share with me some of your experiences
Any chance for me? </p>
<p>Thank you all so much for your help.</p>
<p>Don't bother retaking your SAT, Cornell doesn't offer any merit based financial aid anyways. If the admissions people see you took the SAT as a sophomore in college, it really won't carry any weight at all.</p>
<p>I can only contribute maximum around 1.5k-2k per year...with all the qualification I listed...is there any chance for me?
I reallly appreciate all your help.</p>
<p>Well, if you get in, it really doesn't matter what your hs rank or college gpa was, because you'd be getting the same financial aid package regardless if you were a hs dropout or deans list. Scholarships, loans, grants, etc, they'll find a way for you to go.</p>
<p>All I need is a GPA of 3.0 or 3.3 and I will be automatically be in Cornell University. Check this link out? <a href="http://www.cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/applying/transfer/agreements.cfm#gt%5B/url%5D">http://www.cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/applying/transfer/agreements.cfm#gt</a></p>
<p>I will be attending the SUNY college that gives guarantee admission to Cornell. </p>
<p>I think this is amazing it will be a peice of cake:)</p>
<p>What do you guys think?</p>
<p>Does Cornell have a business undergraduate school, because i don't see it on the website. (Just curious).</p>
<p>yes:<a href="http://www.johnson.cornell.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.johnson.cornell.edu/</a></p>
<p>Its a great articluation program and quite unusual for such a good school, but it is limited by the fact that it is for only the Agriculture and Life Sciences department, but if that is your thing I fully understand you. If the agreement was to the university and all its programs it would be much better</p>
<p>Jezukel - Cornell does not have an undergraduate business school. the johnson school of management that notivy is talking about is a graduate business school. but, Cornell does in fact have an undergraduate business PROGRAM through the college of agriculture and life sciences. it is an excellent program and i intend to transfer into that program next year. its currently ranked #12 in the country.</p>
<p>its called Applied Economics and Management (AEM)</p>
<p>notivybutelite - no, it's not cake. </p>
<p>I've said it once, and i'll say it again:</p>
<p>guaranteed transfer agreements are given to students who applied to be a part of Cornell's freshmen class. They wern't given admission as freshmen, but were guaranteed admission as transfer students if they have a certain GPA with no grades below a B. If you want to be a guaranteed transfer, you have to apply to be a freshmen. If you're stats are not perfect enough to get in, but significantly better than the majority of the class that applied, you might be offered guaranteed admission to the university. If the student accepts the offer they must follow what the 2nd paragraph in your link stipulates. </p>
<p>The website is rather misleading. You are not guaranteed admission if you're a student at one of the schools and have a 3.0. SUNY Canton is listed as one of the school's on the Cornell site. The suny canton website specifically says "Admission is not guaranteed in a 2+2 agreement." What the website is implying is if you have the associates that you'll be guaranteed admission with junior status ... as opposed to misreading it as meaning "you'll be guaratneed admission plus you will have junior status when you enroll." </p>
<p>Sorry, but it's not that easy. Both your college and high school (with standardized test scores) will determine if you'll be admitted, not an articulation agreement.</p>
<p>gomestar- you are true about SUNY Canton. SUNY Canton does not have a agriculture life science major though. It says </p>
<p>" have an agreement that guarantees transfer admission with junior status to the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences at Cornell University. This agreement is designed primarily for students enrolled in the agriculture division at these institutions and interested in studying an agriculturally related curriculum. Students enrolled in other divisions at these institutions who have more general interests will be considered competitive applicants, but cannot be guaranteed transfer admission.".</p>
<p>People that go to alfred state college and the other colleges that have agriculture science as a major are guaranteed admissions( if they finish the requirements they will automatically be in).</p>
<p>The other colleges are not guaranteed for example, </p>
<p>"The College of Agriculture and Life Sciences at Cornell University maintains a number of transfer agreements that guarantee transfer admission with junior status to a limited number of majors within the college. This agreement is designed primarily for students interested in studying an agriculturally related curriculum. Students who have more general interests from these institutions will be considered competitive applicants, but cannot be guaranteed transfer admission. Limited Transfer students apply to one of the majors specified in the transfer agreement".</p>
<p>If you are a major in agriculture you are 10/10 going to get accepted into the college of agriculture of life sciences at Cornell University. Any other majors will just BE COMPETITIVE, they will have like a 1/10 chance.</p>
<p>Please comment?</p>
<p>how about the fact that I live with 200 other transfer students at Cornell University, of which 50-60% had "guaranteed transfer agreements." I've asked people about it before and they've said it's not as black and white as the website makes it seem, in fact most of them faced quite a few problems getting credits to transfer (even from the schools listed on the website). Cornell changes the requirements from semester to semester. Each one had to apply as trasnsfer students again. I should note that I have yet to meet a person who had less than a 3.6 gpa upon transfering. True, a 3.0 is needed in order to be considered for the agriculture program, but it isn't "ok, just maintain a B average at a state school and i'm in!" as it seems. </p>
<p>Cornell will figure out if you're actually interested in agriculture, or if you're just applying because it's Cornell and it's ultra-prestigious. It doesn't matter what your GPA is, Cornell does have the authority to reject you despite whatever contract agreements. Working with admissions at Cornell has taught me this. The problem the agriculture program gets is students who thing they can use it for pre-med, when in reality they cannot. If you're interested in the agricultural aspect of science, go for it though.</p>
<p>I agree with some of the things you said:) But:</p>
<p>"The problem the agriculture program gets is students who thing they can use it for pre-med, when in reality they cannot".</p>
<p>This is not true, You really take the same courses as a pre-med student for example, you take biology, organic biology, chemistry and etc. I have proof if you want to see the proof: </p>
<p>Can you get proof on what you are saying? What I am talking about is a GUARANTEE admission not TRANSFER AGREEMENT but GAURANTEE and this is only for certain schools. It says if you major in agriculture major you are guarantee admissions but if you dont then you will be competitive. Am I right or wrong?</p>
<p>If you worked with admissions please get proof?</p>
<p>If you keep a 3.3 GPA with atleast a 24 on your ACT and about 8 or 10 great EC's, great recs, and great essays which I plan to have and go to one of the guarantee transfer agreement schools and major in agriculture science you are guaranteed admissions.</p>
<p>gomestar- please comment</p>
<p>admissions really isn't as black and white as you think it is. </p>
<p>"This is not true, You really take the same courses as a pre-med student for example"</p>
<p>you are right, but you're missing out on a rather important point. I can take bio, orgochem and all of the likes. However, the requirements for the agricultural degree are different from that of the pre-med curriculum. I'm not sure it's even possible to be an agriculture major and to do a pre-med curriculum in the full four years at Cornell let alone the 2 year transfer thing. Those who enroll in the agriculture program aren't there to go to med school. Plants and humans are both living things, but sufficient study of crops wont prepare you for med school. </p>
<p>And believe me, there is plenty of red tape for the agriculture program. The typical student who enrolls in the program grew up on a farm and is from New York state. As "guaranteed" as it may seem, Cornell will flat out reject you if they feel you are not a good fit for the school ... even if you have done all of the "requirements." Sure, your credits are guaranteed to transfer, but it's not a "ok, 3.0, in!" type of deal. Sorry to dissapoint, but Cornell does look for the student who is using the transfer agreement to their advantage just to get into Cornell rather than pursuiting another interest. How do you want me to get proof? Admissions wont openly tell you information like this, they appreciate your $65 to apply. </p>
<p>Also, i'll throw this in there too for your consideration. The average SAT score of students at Cornell is around 1400 and the ACT range is around 28-32. Almost 90% of students came from the top 10% of their class and the vast majority were from very competitive schools. Despite this, countless people fail intro bio, genetics, and orgo chem every semester. It's a fact of life that these classes are as hard as hell. How on earth with a 2.5 high school GPA and a 17 on the ACT would you even survive one of these classes? </p>
<p>If you want to go to med school: </p>
<p>1) dont come to Cornell, i'm flat out serious when i say your chances of succeeded in the academics the school throws at you are rather slim, especially for pre-med. This is not the same as a state school. </p>
<p>2) dont apply to be an agriculture major. Plants are not humans and arriculture is not an approved pre-med curriculum. You'd have to go get a master's at another school and take all of the classes required for med school. </p>
<p>I hate to be this honest, but sometimes the flat-out truth is best.</p>
<p>Your right gomestar I did get a 17 on my ACT and get a 2.5 for my high school GPA. That is because I fooled around, never went to classes and failed the 9th grade(thanks for pouring salt in my wound..LOL) but got back on track and made honor roll from then on out I went from a 51% average my first year to a 81% average my senior year.after my second freshman year got on track and back in my correct grade, I was suppose to graduate when I was 18 and I graduated when I was 18. For the ACT 17 I dont know how i got that maybe because I did not study and I took it my junior year but I'll be taking it again in April and will get a 24 or higher.
My major is agriculture science, from what my counselor told me is that you will get accepted into medical school if you have there prerequisites, am I right or wrong? Also I will join agriculture clubs because I really am interested in agriculture. But some of the things you are saying is true, I dont expect to get a 3.0 and automatically think that I am in I know i will have to have good EC's, recs and essays. But guarantee means guarantee and once you have a contract that says guarantee your in unless you mess up somewhere. For example some community colleges in California have guarantee admissions with universities in California, someone with a 3.0 that is in the guarantee admissions program will get in before another cc student with a 3.4 that is not involved with the guarantee admissions.</p>
<p>gomestar please comment..thanks.</p>
<p>. Freshman, second semester in college
. I am in honor program in my LAC
. Current GPA: 3.73 ( I am trying to boost it up to 3.9)
. High school GPA: 4.333
. Good recommendation letters
. trying to find internship this summer</p>
<p>Do I need more EC in order to my application more appealing?</p>