<p>What are your opinions on this, placing heavy emphasis on job placement in finance and consulting.</p>
<p>*ps. I am an international student, please consider this.</p>
<p>UMichigan Ross is definitely top notch in its undergraduate business program however how well is it received internationally compared to Cornell, an ivy league?</p>
<p>Also, I am guaranteed admission to UMichigan Ross business, but in Cornell I would be in the college of arts and sciences taking up econ. Would Cornell's "ivy league" label make up for a non-AEM major who is planning to pursue finance, especially when compared to UMichigan Ross?</p>
<p>In short, which school would be more advantageous, especially in terms of job placement and recruiting?</p>
<p>I’d say UMichigan because they actually have an undergraduate business program. Not sure where you’d have more recruiting, but it seems that you’re planning on going to grad school anyway when you say “I am guaranteed admission to UMichigan Ross business,” so I would worry more about recruiting after grad school.</p>
<p>Are you in-state? If you are that would solidify the decision x10 :D</p>
<p>the OP is an international student, like he/she said.</p>
<p>also, rainbowrose, Cornell does also have an undergraduate business program (AEM). I’m assuming the OP did not get in or does not want to go into AEM</p>
<p>yes I am an international, I did not apply to Cornell AEM because it’s admissions rate is about 12% and two of my friends who had similar stats to me applied early decision and were downright rejected. Nevertheless, I still wanted Cornell even if it wasn’t AEM and hence applied to the college of arts and sciences. </p>
<p>Although I would pick Cornell over Michigan any day, I was worried that Cornell would place much less emphasis for its College of Arts and Science career services, whereas Michigan Ross places heavy emphasis on job searches and career fairs.</p>
<p>As much as I want to learn and enjoy college life, I also do want to secure a job in the financial sector after graduation</p>
<p>CAS Career Services is amazing! Even as a freshman just hoping to get a summer internship, I’ve been very impressed by their resources and all of the support I’ve received. If you take the initiative to ask for help, you won’t be disappointed.</p>
<p>“You won’t have a problem doing that at Cornell.”</p>
<p>Wow, either Cornell’s rep has gone through the roof or things have changed from when I worked in the financial sector. At my firm only a quite select subset of applicants from most top schools, including Cornell, were able to obtain positions. Students were advantaged at such schools because at least the firms would interview there, but the proportion of would-be bankers who did not “have a problem” was quite far from a majority. It was probably easier, proportionally, to get into med school. That was some years ago now, but is it so much easier, in these economic times, to get a job in the financial sector? I don’t know, but I wouldn’t have thought so.</p>
<p>But if that’s what it’s like, these days, for would-be bankers attending Cornell; sifting through their multiple offers (Hmm Goldman today? Or Morgan Stanley. Let’s make them bid over me…)</p>
<p>It’s nice to know this country has no significant problems relating to real estate, or [health] insurance. Or [bogus] accounting (Enron, Madoff auditors).</p>
<p>Two of the three (real estate and accounting) can be directly attributable back to Wall Street. Health care is a discussion for a different day.</p>
<p>Let’s face it, Wall Street has been doing a very crappy job of allocating capital for thirty years. The only thing it has been good at is paying people way too much money.</p>
<p>Fraudulent or negligent conduct by people in accounting, mortgage banking and real estate professions can be directly attributable only to themselves. Some on Wall Street benefitted from these activities, others on Wall street were harmed by them. There are whole firms forced out of business. Whoever did what, they are individually responsible for what they themselves did. Or didn’t do but should have.</p>
<p>But this will not help decide Michigan vs Cornell or whatever.</p>
<p>Not to upset CR2005…My daughter is in A&S as math and econ majors (and a minor in humanities) was offered 4 WS jobs for this summer. At one of those firms’ sell day, there were 2 tables of Cornell students vs one table for other schools. This firm said that they have a huge Cornell network. </p>
<p>Finance jobs are not just limited to AEM students. Through my daughter’s interview process, I found out that all IBs have the same agreement with all Ivies. There is a specific time they could come on campus to recruit. They couldn’t invite students off campus for sell days or interviews until after a certain date. They must allow students until Mar 1 to accept a position. If anyone should violate the agreement (students or employers) then they are banned from interviewing on campus or use the career center services later. I am not sure if they have the same agreement with other schools outside of Ivies.</p>
<p>Cornell’s career center also organizes “Cornell Day” with most of top IBs over the winter break. It is open to ALL Cornell students. They aget invited to those firms to get the first look. They then get invited to interview on campus. Those events are all sponsored by Cornell alums at each firm. I know my daughter’s friends at other schools do not have such program.</p>
<p>No. This isn’t the case of a few bad apples. The whole barrel rots from the inside out. The system encourages, breeds, this type of behavior and then looks the other way. Listen to Volker. He’s right. Our entire financial system needs to be rethought, especially the compensation structure.</p>