Cornell ILR transfer chances

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<p>I want to transfer next spring to ILR, and would appreciate people who have gone through the process if they can give me an idea if I have a good chance of getting in.</p>

<p>I had a 3.93 gpa through 65 credit hours at santa fe community college in fl. Took lots of courses like micro/macro eco, fin/man accounting, business calc, stats, and all AA requirements. Only B I got was in a class I did a credit by examination unfortunately, and only kept it to beat a prereq deadline for UF which ended up denying me because of budget problems cutting down transfers bigtime, so it ended up pointless. I did keep up a pretty high course load throughout, and I am currently 1 year ahead of my HS class (07).</p>

<p>For HS it is much worse. I had bad marks my 10th grade year, but got progressively better and did very well in 12th when I was dual enrolled and taking college courses. I ended up with a 3.1x unweighted and about 3.6 weighted. I only took 1 class prior to 12th grade that was weighted though. Also, they don't count any extra points at my HS for + grades which hurt a lot since I had 9 B+ and 4 C+ (3 in 10th grade) in HS. While my 10th grade year was littered with C's/C+ afterwards I only got a C in one class (both semesters in art because the teacher hated me and was a real prick).</p>

<p>I can get an excellent, detailed instructor evaluation from my micro and macro econ professor. I will be working with him all this summer on a investments & banking reading list he set up for me, and also starting on online investment program. I know he will give me as good of a eval as possible, and if he discusses what we did all summer, I think that should help even more. My stats and calc prof. will also give me a very good evaluation.</p>

<p>I have had 3 jobs, for about a total of 1 1/2 years (although haven't been at current on long). First was 6 months fast food, next 8 months automotive upholstery, and currently an intern for a CPA.</p>

<p>For extracurriculars, I have been in a church group for about 4 years, but I didn't really do any of the clubs in HS or college unfortunately, so this is by far the weak point of my application. I might be able to figure out something else to put on it besides church group, but nothing super impressive.</p>

<p>I have the ability to write an excellent essay, and will take my time to get it as good as I can. I anticipate this being a strong point along with my college grades/course load, and instructor evaluations.</p>

<p>I would really appreciate honest opinions on my chances of getting in. The lady I talked to at ILR said she thought I would be one of the more competitive applicants, and the acceptance numbers for ILR vs. other colleges at Cornell are encouraging. I am very concerned about my extracurriculars though, hopefully one weak point won't keep me out. At least I am not apply for CAS, probably would have no chance.</p>

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<p>anyone...?</p>

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<p>The acceptance numbers include guaranteed transfers, so be careful with making strong inferences based off of them.</p>

<p>Why are you interested in the ILR school, and not, say, AEM? Your ECs and essays should demonstrate at least some interest on conflict resolution, negotiation, human resources, organizational strategy, government policy, or labor economics.</p>

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<p>Do you know about how much of the acceptances are GT's? Would the spring transfer numbers also include GT's or do they only transfer in the fall? I was told 30 of 39 external transfers were accepted last spring.</p>

<p>I can't transfer into AEM because I don't meet the biology requirement. I only took introduction to bio, so I would have to take 2 semesters of bio to meet the requirement which I don't want to do, because I am also going to have to take another english comp course which I would have to do for ILR also. I would be happy in either program, but I have a better shot at ILR aside from the obvious problems with not having any bio requirements for AEM.</p>

<p>If I take the english comp course the second summer session, I can maybe do some more extracurriculars. What would you recommend specifically for ILR? I do have interest in things you mentioned like negotiation, orginizational strategy, gov policy, and especially labor economics. Not sure what kind of activities I could do related to these though. Would doing something this late for only a few months be good enough to show them interest if I tied my experience from this into my essay to say why I want to go to ILR?</p>

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Do you know about how much of the acceptances are GT's? Would the spring transfer numbers also include GT's or do they only transfer in the fall? I was told 30 of 39 external transfers were accepted last spring.

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<p>Then you can back out the numbers and do the math yourself.</p>

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I can't transfer into AEM because I don't meet the biology requirement. I only took introduction to bio, so I would have to take 2 semesters of bio to meet the requirement which I don't want to do, because I am also going to have to take another english comp course which I would have to do for ILR also. I would be happy in either program, but I have a better shot at ILR aside from the obvious problems with not having any bio requirements for AEM.

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<p>Fair enough.</p>

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If I take the english comp course the second summer session, I can maybe do some more extracurriculars. What would you recommend specifically for ILR? I do have interest in things you mentioned like negotiation, orginizational strategy, gov policy, and especially labor economics. Not sure what kind of activities I could do related to these though. Would doing something this late for only a few months be good enough to show them interest if I tied my experience from this into my essay to say why I want to go to ILR?

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<p>There are lots of things you can do. You can get a job working in an HR office. You can intern with a union. You can get involved with a minimum wage or living wage campaign. You can volunteer with a disability-rights advocacy organization. You can work for a state or local politician or political campaign. You can start your own company.</p>

<p>Whatever you do, make certain you have a bona fide interest in it and that your interest comes through on your application.</p>

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<p>After calling ILR back, they told me all the numbers include GT's, but she didn't have any info on how many of the acceptances were GT's. Obviously if a large number of the acceptances were GT's it was skew the percentage of acceptances quite a bit. So, I really have no idea how good the odds are anymore.</p>

<p>I will try to figure something out for EC to do in addition to the CPA internship I have now (it is paying and I need the money). The good thing is that I have plenty of time before the application needs to be completed. I'll have to see what kind of opportunities I can find in my area. </p>

<p>If I do an EC that meshes with ILR, and am able to do a great job of integrating the experience into the essay on why I want to go to ILR, would you think I have a good chance? Does coming from out of state hurt the chances for the contract colleges?</p>

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<p>Assume 75% of all matriculating transfers are GTs, and that 95% of GTs are accepted.</p>

<p>Beyond college GPA, the most important thing in external transfer admission is fit to the school. Whether or not you have an 1150 or 1450 SAT doesn't matter. What matters is that your academic goals will be boosted by the ILR coursework.</p>

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<p>Assuming the percentages you gave, last spring approximately half of non GT transfer students were accepted. Not nearly as good, but not terrible either (well if I did the math right). Where it starts looking grim is last falls numbers. Once again assuming those number given are close, something like 28% got accepted that weren't GT. If there is a larger group of non GT applicants next spring it could easily be worse than it was last year. But since you said assume 75% of matriculating transfers were GT's the numbers could also vary depending on whether the majority of non enrolling acceptances were GT or not.</p>

<p>I am not really sure what to do now, or how well I stack up against the average non GT applicant. I think I could show them I belong, but that doesn't guarantee any acceptance. Not to mention the hoops I am jumping through to make myself competitive, and sacrifices I will have to make at my backup school if I did not get accepted at Cornell. </p>

<p>The way my backup school's admissions process works is to get admitted to the general college, and then apply to the business program after you are accepted by the college. I cannot do this until after I enroll, and if I defer enrollment until I hear from Cornell, it will be fast the application deadline for the business school. This would mean I would have to go and only take regular classes my first semester, and then apply for fall 2009 to the business program.</p>

<p>I really, really want to attend Cornell, but do you think it is worth all the trouble it will be for a chance at it? I am willing to do whatever I need to, but if I didn't get accepted it would be pretty devastating (and I already went through that feeling once with a certain state school with budget problems). My backup school is no slouch by any means, in fact it is excellent academically, but it is not Cornell. I am really not sure what to do at this point. It would just suck to get rejected by Cornell and then not be able to go straight into my backup schools business program. However getting into Cornell is obviously more important to me.</p>

<p>I am going to see if I can find any internships at a law office. I think that would be relevant EC for ILR, much more so than the CPA internship I have now, and it is something that would really interest me, and you say that is what matters most. I really appreciate your help though.</p>

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Assuming the percentages you gave, last spring approximately half of non GT transfer students were accepted. Not nearly as good, but not terrible either (well if I did the math right). Where it starts looking grim is last falls numbers. Once again assuming those number given are close, something like 28% got accepted that weren't GT. If there is a larger group of non GT applicants next spring it could easily be worse than it was last year.

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<p>Freshman acceptance rates were less than 25 percent so there's no reason to complain.</p>

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I really, really want to attend Cornell, but do you think it is worth all the trouble it will be for a chance at it? I am willing to do whatever I need to, but if I didn't get accepted it would be pretty devastating (and I already went through that feeling once with a certain state school with budget problems). My backup school is no slouch by any means, in fact it is excellent academically, but it is not Cornell. I am really not sure what to do at this point. It would just suck to get rejected by Cornell and then not be able to go straight into my backup schools business program. However getting into Cornell is obviously more important to me.

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<p>Life is full of trade-offs, priorities, and let-downs. Welcome to the club.</p>

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<p>Yes, I know life is full of let-downs and trade-offs, and I don't mean to sound like I am the only one that has to put up with it. I am just not sure what direction I should go. It feels like I have worked so hard and gotten no where. I was basically a sure thing to get into UF with my stats and the transfer agreement they have with my CC, and all of a sudden after pretty much every good college's fall deadlines passed they announced they were cutting transfers down big time. Of course I could have gotten into another program besides business at UF, but I wanted no part of the other schools they offered me (lib arts, and agribusiness). That is the reason I am not going somewhere this fall unfortunately, but I will probably be better off in the long run.</p>

<p>I think I am going to see if there are any labor unions around here and maybe try to keep my internship I already have and see if I can't part time at one. That or a law office.</p>

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<p>I was given GT for fall 09. They told me that 40-50 students transfered into ILR w/ GTs last year. I don't know if this helps. But good luck!</p>

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<p>Senioritis10, if that number is correct then the odds are better than I previously thought, but it doesn't really matter that much at this point to me. I am applying regardless, and I think I have a very solid shot of getting in as I have begun some activities to go along with the rest of my stuff to increase my chances. The accountant I work for in about to get me involved in work that is more related to ILR than I am currently doing. I will probably be doing payroll so that I can spin it as an HR related thing in my essay. He really wants to see me get in, so we will figure something out. I am working about 30 hours a week now on average, and will continue this.</p>

<p>I am also joining my CC's student government executive or legislative branch (which would be better for ILR? I was thinking legislative..), trading stocks with my economics professor, volunteering throughout the summer with habitat for humanity on weekends (expect about 60 hours total), and possibly getting a job with my colleges HR department next fall (not sure if this will be possible though, but the rest are sure things). Will these activities along with past work experience make me a strong candidate (assuming grades, recommendations, and essays are all excellent, which they are and/or will be)? Any other activities that would not take up a ton of time that would go well with the others, or be better than some of the ones I mentioned?</p>

<p>I will also be taking 2 more classes after getting everything figured out with Ian on that. Just need a cultural perspectives and one more composition class, both of which should be easy A's, so they won't hurt my GPA. This will give me all the classes they like to see transfers take along with a great GPA which should help. When I am submitting everything though, I think by then I will have a very well rounded application.</p>

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<p>You do have a very good chance of getting in. Plus your extra-curriculars definitely give it a boost. Best of luck to you!</p>

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<p>What are the relevent extracurricular activites that you were involved in?</p>