<p>^ Yeah growing up in NYS, that was my impression as well. HYP always were the “name brand” schools everyone knew of at an early age, but Columbia/Cornell were considered to be right under those. I think which state you’re from makes a difference in terms of perceived eliteness. And I bet outside the Northeast, most people don’t care about this stuff as much. Based on some of the stuff I’ve read on CC, Texans place Rice up there with the Ivies, but I never heard of it til i created an account here. And they probably don’t know of or care about Dartmouth or whatever.</p>