Cornell Overenrolls by 240

<p><a href="http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/May06/trustee5_26.ssl.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/May06/trustee5_26.ssl.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Apparently, Cornell underestimated its yield rate, which as of now is 47% (compared to 44% the previous year), a lot higher than was initially estimated. So it seems that the admissions rate of 25% could have been lowered by quite a bit to meet the class size targets. In fact, if you consider the enrollment number of 240, Cornell could have (and should have) admitted 500 less students (assuming 47% yield). </p>

<p>"6,927 students were admitted out of 28,097 applicants." So if you subtract 500 from 6927, and divide by 28097, the admissions rate should have been 22.8%, as opposed to 25%.</p>

<p>haha, this is gonna be bad for US News rankings. (jokes). I am concerned, though, how much this overenrollment of 240 will affect class sizes, residence situations, and the overall experience of the Class of 2010 students, since there are 7% more students than anticipated. Conversely, though, it means next year Cornell will be able to accept less students, knowing its higher yield, and the higher yield acts as a good indicator of progress (not to mention US News rankings... lol kidding).</p>

<p>240 shouldn't be too big of a problem... they have the capacity to turn singles into doubles without much hassle (and freshman year, I think a double is your best bet). the high yield is very good news, though... the years to come will be very good for Cornell.</p>

<p>Enrollment is gonna be around 3256, and which means they were aiming for around 3016. My class is around 3108... they're not totally off the mark.</p>

<p>i dont think overenrollment is a good thing at all, it means bigger classes, more crowded dining halls, housing issues, and other problems, cornell is already HUGE, the extra 250 isn't doing anything good</p>

<p>You know, Cornell had the same problem some tme back...except that it was much bigger number and they housed some of them at hotlels temporarily. I read it in a book by Chuck Hughes.</p>

<p>bball87, 240 kids isn't a whole lot to a school as big as Cornell. It can definitely support that many.</p>

<p>My guess is that they will probably accept less people next year, and 240 extra kids is what, 3 extra people a class?</p>

<p>crap....that means if they want to appear better for us news and stuff, they will make it harder for me to get in!</p>

<p>my guess is that next year the percent accepted will drop, it's at 21% right now. If it drops it'll mean Cornell will be better ranked, hopefully move into the top 10.</p>

<p>Cornell might go into the top 10 with its steep drop that it had this year, but it doesn't really matter if it does or doesn't.</p>

<p>i'm glad to see a higher yield rate. Not sure if it'll help Cornell's ranking, but I don't really care either way.</p>

<p>Uhh everyone is mistaken. Cornell acceptance is 25% this year, not 21%, which was an error that they corrected. Check the numbers.</p>

<p>damn...
this means its gonna be harder for us to get in next year</p>

<p>only one person was unaware of the final acceptance rate, big deal</p>

<p>Excellent!!! I thought just the opposite would be the problem! Up go the future rankings!</p>

<p>i'm so honored i represent "everyone"</p>

<p>Cornell intends to have classes of 3050 incoming students each Fall.
Link to Undergraduate Enrollment Trends Fall 2005 <a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000339.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000339.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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The current enrollment planning process focuses intensely on a first-time freshman enrollment target of 3,050 students. It is especially important to be disciplined about first-year enrollment targets given that all freshmen are housed within the North Campus Residential Initiative.

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<p>Up until this year, Fall 2006, they had been doing a relatively good job in hitting their target enrollment.</p>

<p><a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000002.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000002.pdf&lt;/a>
Fall 2005 - 3108 students; 46.9% yield
Fall 2004 - 3093 students; 50.4% yield
Fall 2003 - 3202 students; 50.5% yield
Fall 2002 - 3064 students; 49.9% yield
Fall 2001 - 3043 students; 51.2% yield</p>

<p>Fall 2005 - 24452 applicants; admitted 6621; 27.0% admit rate
Fall 2004 - 20822 applicants; admitted 6130; 29.4% admit rate
Fall 2003 - 20441 applicants; admitted 6334; 30.9% admit rate
Fall 2002 - 21502 applicants; admitted 6133; 28.5% admit rate
Fall 2001 - 21519 applicants; admitted 5861; 27.2% admit rate</p>

<p>For Fall of 2004 they reduced the number admitted by 200 to avoid the over enrollment they had in 2003.
Fall of 2005 was Cornell's first year for the use of the common application, so they increased the admitted students assuming yield would drop.</p>

<p>Looking forward, we can expect them to admit fewer in the RD round next year, Fall of 2007, and their using the wait list to fill the class. </p>

<p>Students admitted from Wait List (From Common Data Set <a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/F_Common_Data_Set.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dpb.cornell.edu/F_Common_Data_Set.htm&lt;/a> )
Fall 2005 - 209
Fall 2004 - 171
Fall 2003 - 4
Fall 2002 - 124
Fall 2001 - 55</p>

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A key element of the first-year freshmen enrollment plan was the construction of a conservative admit and yield model and the aggressive use of the waitlist. Students admitted from the waitlist are just as strong as students admitted through regular and early decision based on standard, quantifiable measures. Contrary to conventional wisdom, there has been no dramatic drop-off in academic quality when colleges admit from the waitlist. For an institution like Cornell, this is significant because we have such a large and strong applicant pool.

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<p>Hey this isn't bad news, because what if you were one of these people that would be cut. Now Cornell will be recognized as a more-wanted school! That small number of students in a University holding 20,000 students isn't that bad.</p>

<p>Not a bad thing...I'm confident that Cornell can accomodate the incoming students (I guess they must have enough housing on north campus....I hope).</p>

<p>It won't make any difference in class size....that's about how many Tulane students we had come, and no one noticed a difference in class size.</p>

<p>Well, now Cornell knows that it can be a little more selective...it's nice to know that there was more interest in Cornell than even admissions anticipated. good news!</p>

<p>wouldn't a college think that the enrollment would be higher than projected with the number of applicants applying being higher than projected? all colleges with overenrollment problems have accomendations, Univ at Buffalo had that problem last year and used hotels close to campus to put kids up in. i hope i still get my double. And r the Tulane students back this year?</p>