<p>To unicameral2013: First off, to be as blunt as I possibly can, your sarcasm is dry, poor, god-awful. Sarcasm is a subtle art. That did not read sarcasm to me, it read “look at this angry man on the other side of the internet trying to convince himself that there is some fan group reading this thread nodding and agreeing with him.” Sorry to break it to you, but there just isn’t. </p>
<p>Next, putting words in your “debaters” mouth is not in good taste. I actually go to Cornell, champ. I knew where Cornell was on the world rankings and U.S News rankings from the getgo, and I articulated that in this thread. You just created a “debate” based on something you misunderstood from the beginning. </p>
<p>You want to learn something from me? If and when you get into some college which is not Cornell or on par with Cornell, completely change your attitude. I can only pray you end up in the reject pile at Cornell [sarcasm]cause that would make me sleep better at night[/sarcasm]. << Check that hardcore stuff out. Sarcasm on top of “Sarcasm” yo. That is how it’s done son, that is how it’s done. You are the weakest link. G’night.</p>
<p>To Swimmer726: I never cared about rankings. I made it clear I knew what they were and still didn’t care. Hence why I chose Cornell over higher-ranked schools. I believe that the Ivy League is the most elite education available, period. I got into Dartmouth too but love the Greek life here. I’ve been fortunate at Cornell. I got engaged here, I became president of my fraternity, I got “tapped” for some senior honor society, and I got an awesome summer internship waiting for me that I anticipate getting a full-time from.</p>
<p>There was no misunderstanding. You have stated repeatedly that you think the ivies are top 8 in the world. In any case, now that we’ve cleared that nonsense up, I’ll be off this thread.</p>
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Already been accepted to MIT bud. The first time around. Thanks for that though.</p>
<p>Unicameral2013: And I repeatedly state that I think Ivies are the top 8 in the world. You still don’t get it. “I’ll be off this thread” is the best decision you’ve made yet. We have cleared up nonsense that you created, indeed. </p>
<p>The only way you’d get into MIT now is if you were ED, so you’re not coming to Cornell. Which means I’ll let my friends know at MIT to watch out for a whiny freshman. Your “sarcasm” will stick out like a sore thumb during rush week. Peace.</p>
<p>Thanks Unibames, but MIT is unrestricted EA. The acceptance rate was less than 10%, which was a record low for them AND lower than every other college in the early round this year. ;)</p>
<p>And you’re correct Unibames, I am not getting it. You haven’t explained your nebulous statements and I am totally lost as to what you could mean. So I’m going to quit arguing about it.</p>
<p>You lied. You sound like the Mayor of Tool City. Simply put, I like Cornell better than Penn. Nough’ said. Your argument, in order. I do not know what college rankings are. That just because I applied to mostly Ivies means I can’t apply to non-ivies just because I think Ivies are superior. ram0276 and BreakingGrace seems to understand where you went lost. I hope you articulated yourself in a similar fashion in your admission essays. Even Adcoms like to lol.</p>
<p>I never said I fully agreed with ram0276, I just pointed out that he understood what you did not. Dude, reading comprehension 101. Get on that, that would have saved you from the start. You’re either a poor ■■■■■ or just intellectually-inept.</p>
<p>@collegiatedreams well what you said was different from another I saw, I am looking at the US news world rankings and Cornell is #14 and is above Duke, Northwestern and even Stanford.
[World’s</a> Best Universities; Top 400 Universities in the World | US News](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds-best-universities-rankings/top-400-universities-in-the-world]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds-best-universities-rankings/top-400-universities-in-the-world)
I think Unibames statement that the 8 ivies are the top 8 colleges is inaccurate but fine. After all rankings are subjective since there isn’t one formula that says ooh this school is better than the other, so he probably has his criteria. @unicameral2013 congrats on getting accepted to MIT, Yep MIT is more prestigious than Cornell, however I think there could be a reasonable argument comparing Stanford to Cornell. Although its very rare to see someone who would choose Cornell over MIT, I have quite some friends who chose Cornell engineering over Stanford’s, for reasons such as having an excellent engineering program and still having an Ivy League name attached, proximity, good food ish while most others chose Stanford coz of cornell’s weather, stanford’s more recognized eng program etc . My point: Forget all the ranking ish, they are very inconsistent (which proves their subjectivity)at US news x school is 11 at QS It’s 20 and times its blabla. Does it matter? Look for the best school that suits you and stop filling up threads with arguments that remain at stalemate. OP Cornell is not on a negative trajectory as I said earlier but that still doesn’t matter, if Cornell is best fit for you then it is best fit for you.</p>
<p>These rankings are tremendously volatile. Don’t pay too much attention to them. Duke went from being ranked 40 something in the world in 2004 to being ranked 11th in the world in 2005. Take from that what you will.</p>
<p>Wow. Cornell has been my dream school for years. I’ve invested my time and energy into hopefully getting a good chance with admissions. I had an “information session” that turned into an interview and a chance at getting closer to my dream.</p>
<p>After reading all of this I’m considering running away from that dream (LOL JK not really). Not because of the stupid rankings, but because of the people. There are actually people who are like person X? Seriously?! You’d think people in COLLEGE would be slightly more mature, especially at Cornell and “other Ivies.” Is this High School part two or what?</p>
<p>Went to this thread hoping to gain some knowledge. Way to help the people out, dude.</p>
<p>There are a lot of high schoolers posting here, and there are people who are not who they say they are. Most students at Cornell do not care about this nonsense and they are not at Cornell because of the ranking, or lack of it. Ranking is a good piece of information sometimes to give people a guideline of quality of education, but when you are looking at top 20 schools in the US, I think you are splitting hair. It is kind of like trying to say the Olympic gold medallist is so much better than bronze. Stanford’s ranking dropped to #6 (behind Chicago and Columbia), but do we really believe that Stanford is “not as good” as Chicago and Columbia, or even MIT for that matter?</p>
<p>Janella, you will find petty one-upsmanship wherever you go. Don’t allow it to distract you from important reasons to attend any given school, like the programs offered and geographic location.</p>
<p>After all, what’s in a name? Make an impact as a successful individual, rather than some no-name Ivy grad with a pretty degree but no other accomplishments of which to speak.</p>
<p>@ Unibames “I look at a Cornellian “ILR” the same way I look at a state school student.”<br>
What the hell? Thanks a lot. I got rejected from Cornell, and I think I may be going to a state school. For you to compare state students to “learning how to cook a steak or uncork a bottle of wine” is pretty damn offensive.</p>
<p>Rankings do matter, for employment purposes.</p>
<p>However, U.S. New rankings don’t fully correlate to the level of employment desirability, or the level of recruitment done by desirable firms, attached to each school.</p>
<p>For example, Wash U is ranked higher than Cornell and Brown. However, don’t fool yourself. Many major Wall St I-banking or consulting firms don’t even recruit at Wash U, while almost all major firms (except McKinsey, Bain, or BCG) recruit at Cornell or Brown.</p>
<p>I will say that while Cornell seems to be a major target school for most I-banking firms, it seems to be relatively weak in consulting recruitment, compared to rest of Ivies.</p>
<p>One interesting fact is that University of Michigan, Georgetown, and University of Virginia, while being ranked much lower than schools like Wash U, Emory, or Vanderbilt, clearly have much stronger job placement and elite corporate recruitment on campus. Hence, it would be foolish for anyone who’s interested in pursuing a career in finance or consulting to enroll at Emory or Wash U, over Cornell, Brown, or even University of Michigan, for that matter.</p>
<p>You claim that Ivies are the most elite schools in the world, but that’s not the case always.</p>
<p>For example, neither NYU Law nor U Chicago Law are Ivies, but both these schools’ elite law firm job placements are like twice stronger than that of Cornell Law. </p>
<p>Same goes for MBA/ business. NYU Stern MBA/ U Chicago MBA/ Northwestern MBA/ U Michigan MBA all slaughter Cornell Johnson MBA, and even Yale MBA in many cases, for I-banking and consulting placement.</p>
<p>At undergrad level - schools like Duke or Stanford place far higher % of their grads into elite finance/ consulting jobs compared to Cornell. I don’t have a problem saying that both Duke and Stanford seem to be strong feeders into Wall St front office jobs, compared to Cornell, by measuring % of grads who end up at such jobs. </p>
<p>You need to tone your rhetoric down. I say this as a Cornell alum.</p>