Cornell Remains 15 on USNWR

<p>well, looks like Cornell has stayed just as it was last year...
and Brown is also 15 now. good news is it hasn't surpassed Cornell!</p>

<p>I don’t really see how schools like WashU and Johns Hopkins are surpassing ones like Cornell/Brown.</p>

<p>Not surprising why – these schools have a ranking centric strategy, while Brown and Cornell are more focused on their particular academic missions. This is not to say that Brown and Cornell should change anything about themselves, to the contrary I would say that they should continue to do what they are doing. </p>

<p>Cornell in particular, is hampered by its class size and endowment vis-a-vis its student body. </p>

<p>In addition, adding the opinions of HS counselors to the ranking formula is rather dumb if I do say so myself - this is almost akin to the opinion of a layman - which I think is a self-reinforcing thing when it comes to US News.</p>

<p>Cornell is not perfect, or necessarily the “best” choice for every student.</p>

<p>There are schools that offer a higher proportion of smaller classes than Cornell does, for one thing. There are schools where the student body is yet more highly selected. </p>

<p>Cornell has 7 undergraduate colleges, a number of which have no analog at JHU or wash U, or the many others. Yet the university is being compared here as an aggregate, rather than apples-to-apples comparison of comparable programs/ colleges. Only 1/3 of Cornell students are in CAS. Some of Cornell’s colleges are the best of their kind, however their apparent selectivity based on conventional metrics without regard to “fit” may vary somewhat from the preponderance of less specialized colleges to which they are largely being compared. Yet all of these different colleges are lumped together.</p>

<p>The characteristic of Cornell that is among its most noteworthy features- its diversity; the sheer breadth and depth of its offerings across the whole spectrum of higher education, the absolute number of courses, what you can learn there- remains completely unevaluated by US News. This aspect has real value to the many Cornell students who take courses in multiple colleges there, but it is ignored.</p>

<p>Brown also has its excellences, however its small graduate programs probably negatively impacts faculty recognition.</p>

<p>Nevertheless, there are people who, based on their personal priorities, may prefer Cornell, others who may prefer Brown, yet others who may prefer JHU or Wash U. When you apply to Cornell, it will be to particular colleges, not an aggregate. And a particular college there may fit you perfectly, rankings based on aggregates notwithstanding. Or it may not.</p>

<p>Suggest develop your own ranking, based on your own personal criteria, and go by that.</p>

<p>Cornell’s academic reputation [USNWR weighted average of peer assessment and guidance counselor rankings] was 8th, behind HYPSM, Columbia, & Berkeley.</p>

<p>@I V: idk why you are thinking JHU or WUSTL doesnt surpass cornell… </p>

<p>@Cornell2011: cornell probably doesnt care about USNEWS ranking. you are probably right about that. however, you are wrong by saying that JHU focuses on improving its rank. In fact, JHU is probably one school that is most indifferent to USNEWS ranking. you shouldnt say things like that if you are uncertain about it.</p>

<p>anyways… i do think cornell and brown deserve to be ranked higher but i dont think they are any better than non-ivies such as UChicago, Duke, JHU and WUSTL.</p>

<p>Each is probably “better” in some ways, to some people, based on their own individual criteria and objectives, and “worse” in other ways, to others. As one obvious example, there are programs of study at Cornell that together account for a substantial chunk of its enrollment and are either much smaller programs, or absent altogether, at the “non-ivies such as UChicago, Duke, JHU and WUSTL” . </p>

<p>And in some cases vica versa no doubt, for example JHU and Duke offer undergrad nursing degrees whereas Cornell no longer does. </p>

<p>People need to “rank” based on their own criteria and needs.</p>

<p>IBs recruit at Cornell, but not at JHU, that could be a plus for some and minus for others.:)</p>

<p>I have a nephew at JHU, so I like JHU too.</p>

<p>To be honest, Cornell is the top of the Ivy League imo. I mean, it’s an athletic league and last year we wrecked everyone in most things - lacrosse, basketball, track, wrestling, hockey (kind of).</p>

<p>i like keyboard29’s comment :D</p>

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<p>what’s imo?</p>

<p>in my opinion</p>