Cornell v. Binghamton

<p>Hey guys, I am thinking about transferring to Cornell from Binghamton. I received a guaranteed transfer option from Cornell last year. However, I might have to take out loans for Cornell, whereas at Binghamton my parents could pay for Bing and part of grad school/law school. Do you guys think it is worth it to stay at Bing? Is it really getting that much better in the eyes of the nation? (bc everyone I talk to outside of ny has never heard of it). Let me know what you guys think.</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>Binghamton University is a great school it's known as the Ivy league of SUNY schools :-). Whatever you do both universities are outstanding. Do what really makes you happy, don't look back and say I should have did this but I did that.</p>

<p>If I could do it again...I would have gone to Binghamton instead of Cornell. I took some classes at Bing and thought the education I received was fantastic. I left Cornell with a huge load of debt and it's hard to manage the loan payments right now. Take the opportunity to do well and graduate debt free.....save the money for grad school!</p>

<p>I wish I knew then what I know now.....as my aunt always says "hindsight is 20/20"</p>

<p>It's all about fit. I'm also at Binghamton right now, and I'm hating it - I'm trying very hard to transfer out, to Cornell and other places. While the academics are in fact great, I strongly dislike the lack of diversity and the crappy, depressing town. There's nothing to do but drink and study.</p>

<p>That's me though - I suggest you visit Cornell and spend a day there visiting classes, dining, talking to people.</p>

<p>Oh, speaking of dining, Cornell food > Bing food by a long shot. Consider that =)</p>

<p>"I'm trying very hard to transfer out, to Cornell and other places. While the academics are in fact great, I strongly dislike the lack of diversity and the crappy, depressing town. There's nothing to do but drink and study."</p>

<p>wait and youre applying to cornell?!?!?!</p>

<p>if your last degree is from cornell rather than bing., you will have an easier time getting a job out of college...binghamton, while certainly a fine school, is not going to arouse the interest of future employers that cornell will...if only because cornell is an ivy and most non-ivies (sans the stamfords of the world) are pretty much viewed in the same light by potential employers...however if you do in fact plan on going to grad school, i would seriously consider staying at bing. and saving some money for your undergrad education...again, its really the prestige of the last degree that your received that matters most to future employers</p>

<p>gl</p>

<p>Um duffle Cornell is actually extremely diverse, in terms of majors, and socio-economic class of students. It's an Ivy and attracts a diverse crowd from all over the world, whereas Binghamton is a state school, and attracts all sorts of people from...NY State. </p>

<p>OP - Cornell is expensive and if I were you, I would save the money for Law school. I'm trying to transfer there myself, but I'm planning on working right outta college so I feel like Cornell is a good investment...plus I'm not satisfied with my current college, which is way more expensive than Cornell. Binghamton is a great college and I'm applying there as well as Cornell.</p>

<p>LOL! I'm in Texas, and everyone here has heard of Cornell. That's ridiculous and frankly unbelievable (yeah, like, literally, I don't believe you) that you can't find people outside of NY that have heard of it. </p>

<p>For me, with all the new financial aid initiatives Cornell is offering, I think it will actually be cheaper than my state school. How much debt are you talking about for yourself? 5k? 10k? 15k? It's a personal decision, but in my opinion, undergraduate experience is way more defining than graduate experience, and I would therefore take the opportunity to attend the best "fit" undergraduate college, even if it meant some debt.</p>

<p>No I think he/she meant no one has heard of Binghamton, not Cornell
debt is harder to pay off than you might think, esp with interest. I know some people at NYU who are getting degrees in stuff like Theatre, which often results in minimum wage jobs for years, and they're taking out as much as $40K a year in loans...that's $Kfor 4 yrs, plus interest. It's crazy, but they're al like, "With an NYU degree, I'll make it big!" it's like, ok...how many hollywood actors have theatre degrees?</p>

<p>Oh wait, you're taking about Binghamton and not Cornell, whoops. Ignore my first few statements.</p>

<p>Thank you so much for all of your input. The loans may be minimal depending upon the economy and how well my dad's investments end up turn out after this economy picks up. They should in fact be minimal according to him. However, in addition to these loans I would be also taking out loans for grad school. I am having a ok time at Bing, but the diversity from other areas around the country and world is definitely lacking at Bing. There is also very little spirit in the school because it was a safety school for a lot of students there. Does anyone know how Bing compares to other schools when applying to grad/law school? </p>

<p>Thanks so much</p>

<p>Dufflebag, I'm a little curious as to why you are so surprised about my wanting to transfer to Cornell. I've visited twice and was very impressed with the campus and loved the people. I don't know much about Ithaca, but it sure as hell seems cheerier than Binghamton, which I consider to be the most depressing town on earth.</p>

<p>Good luck with Cornell viola....I really did love my time there and I miss it. I noticed that a fair number of transfers to Cornell came form Binghamton. </p>

<p>However...as someone who used to live in and near Bing for a few years, I can say that there are places that are much worse than Binghamton ;-)</p>

<p>If you need any guidance with the transfer process or just have general questions about Cornell....feel free to PM me!</p>

<p>viola-</p>

<p>if you want to apply to cornell, then by all means...but cornell is notorious for being one of the more depressing colleges on earth...it has an alarmingly high rate of suicides...the gorges have nothing on binghamton...the campus is great however, as is the education obviously</p>

<p>stargazer-</p>

<p>ive never heard of diversity defined in terms of majors??? I mean, if that's your definition of diversity, then yea I guess but then so are most schools...in terms of ethnic and socio-economic diversity, its pretty much standard for a school of its prestige...upper-middle class white/asian kids are pretty much the norm...</p>

<p>again its obviously one of the top schools in the country, but just really make sure what you're getting into...some people love it, some people hate it. make sure you really know that the reasons you want to transfer are valid</p>

<p>Actually duffle, Cornell's suicide rate is below the national average. This crap about Cornell's suicide rate started because it has lots of gorges on campus, and some Ithacans and students have chosen to kill themselves there, which is pretty sad. Stop making crap up about Cornell, when you seem to know little about the school. </p>

<p>You're transferring into NYU - our suicide rate is higher than Cornell's! More NYU students kill themselves each year than Cornellians. And there are a ton of of unhappy students here, which is why it has an extremely high external transfer rate. Believe me, I'm an NYU student, and I've spent weekends at Cornell because I have a lot of friends there, and they're happy campers. It's funny how you think Cornell is depressing, when NYU is known for being one of the most depressing "suicidal" colleges around. You might be in for a shock when you come here. </p>

<p>I don't give a crap about skin color. Cornell is extremely diverse, more diverse than NYU. There's a lot more people from lower-class backgrounds. We have a stereotype at NYU - everyone's either a Rich Jew, Left-wing Nut, or Gay. It's a joke on campus, but it's kinda accurate. I like diversity in terms of majors, political beliefs, economic backgrounds, and just generally different types of people. In terms of majors, they have a lot of unique and specialized programs.</p>

<p>DBJ, you should do some fact checking. Read this thread <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/211716-new-york-connection-suicide-chances-other-cornell-rumors-faqs.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/211716-new-york-connection-suicide-chances-other-cornell-rumors-faqs.html&lt;/a> </p>

<p>I believe the school that is really has the highest suicide rate is MIT. Personally, I would be pretty depressed if I had to go NYU, your new school. I could never happily live in a concrete jungle like NYC. I don't know why you are badmouthing Cornell and spreading false rumors when you are going to a clearly inferior school. I took the NYU tour over this past summer and explored the campus several times, and I was not impressed at all having seen Cornell and its spectacular campus a few days prior (in fact it changed my mind about applying at all). I have also noticed a large number of NYU students on this forum have, or are currently attempting to, transfer to Cornell. On a positive note, at least a lot of the dorms over there have there own bathrooms. That is pretty nice and something Cornell does not have; they made a pretty big deal about it on the tour.</p>

<p>Dufflebagjesus, just stop posting.</p>

<p>get over yourselves. get a life people.</p>

<p>was I really badmouthing cornell?!!?!!?! with statements like "its obviously one of the top schools in the country"?</p>

<p>i guess you are free to utilize any criteria to evaluate how "diverse" a campus is, but thats your own business</p>

<p>get a life</p>

<p>WHEN DID I EVER MENTION NYU IN THIS THREAD? GO AHEAD, FIND IT FOR ME</p>

<p>why did this become a cornell v. nyu thread? was i attacking any of you personally? why did you feel it necessary to make it personal? Did i ever say it didnt have a great campus?I know what I'm getting myself into with nyu, and I'm fine with it. And hermanns, I would be very careful about asserting the "inferiority" of my education. Proceed carefully, buddy.</p>

<p>Ok, chill out. The reason people are mad is cause you made something up about a college and people come to this site for info on colleges - someone might read your comment about Cornell having a high suicide rate and think it's true. Cornell's suicide rate is below the national avg...so get your facts straight before you post false rumors. </p>

<p>uh no said you mentioned NYU...it just looks dumb to bash another college for being "one of the more depressing colleges on earth" when your own college has that same reputation, and a higher suicide rate...</p>

<p>i thought hermanns went to cornell?</p>

<p>I think it was your inaccurate statement about Cornell's suicide rate that ticked people off. Going on to refer to Cornell as a top school does not mitigate the previous statement. </p>

<p>Your comment about hermanns attending a community college is inappropriate.</p>

<p>please tell me where i denied that</p>

<p>if you cant, step off</p>