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<p>I want to sit here on a Saturday night and do research and type lengthy essays on whose concerts kick more ass: Cornell or Berkeleys. Hell yeah.
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<p>As opposed to reading, cutting and pasting text on a Saturday night about that subject? </p>
<p>I do enjoy sharing my insights about my school, which I'm very passionate about, particularly the breadth and diversity of its environment and the quality of my college experience.</p>
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Do you would have to fly to Chicago or NYC from Ithica to get a great burrito or tacos al pastor while in school instead of stepping right off campus, or will you have to wear four to five layers of clothes on march 1st instead of a pair of shorts.
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Yeah right, Nor Cal does not have good Mexican food.</p>
<p>The Mission District in SF, home of a dozen great taquerias, taco row on Int'l Blvd in Oakland. Berkeley has four pretty good taquerias and three very solid mexican restaurants (and even a Baja Fresh outlet at the very low end, I know it's a chain and all and it isn't as good as the other four, but it sure beats taco Bell.) Would you rather be in Nor Cal or Ithica, NY to satisfy a mexican food craving?</p>
<p>guys...guys...quit talking about food! Concerts! and the ****in Bitish! I am just concerned with knowing which school will prepare me best for LAW!!!!!</p>
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The Mission District in SF, home of a dozen great taquerias, taco row on Int'l Blvd in Oakland. Berkeley has four pretty good taquerias and three very solid mexican restaurants (and even a Baja Fresh outlet at the very low end, I know it's a chain and all and it isn't as good as the other four, but it sure beats taco Bell.)
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If you have had mexican food in Mexico or even taco shops in San Diego, Nor Cal mexican food sucks.</p>
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They both will prepare you well for law, carlos; because of the mass amount of variables it's difficult to say which one is OVERALL best at preparing YOU for law.</p>
<p>From what I've heard of Cornell, it's nearly impossible to finish the undergrad requirements/work. This is second-hand information, and as such, I'm not sure of the validity.</p>
<p>If you're really interested in law, this</a> is the link to Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, one of the best law firms in New York, if not the entire U.S.; the search is ordered by the number of Cornell undergrads, and their law school choice before joining WLRK. However, I can't find any Berkeley undergrads, although WLRK is on the East Coast. </p>
<p>Try more searched at firms like that, and see where the Cornell/Berkeley undergrads end up working, if you're truly interested in law.</p>
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Try more searched at firms like that, and see where the Cornell/Berkeley undergrads end up working, if you're truly interested in law.
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Not all people who get JDs end up at a law firm...much, much more to it.</p>
<p>There are several fallacies I must address here:</p>
<p>"Do you would have to fly to Chicago or NYC from Ithica to get a great burrito or tacos al pastor while in school instead of stepping right off campus" - 6 mexican places within a 1 mile radius from campus at Cornell. </p>
<p>"or will you have to wear four to five layers of clothes on march 1st instead of a pair of shorts." - If that's true, go to school in Alaska or something. Yout wont be wearing 5 layers in march at Cornell. </p>
<p>"Do you want to watch the sun set through the Golden Gate Bridge in February or pace quickly through the snow to get indoors..." Or would you rather watch the sunset from on top of a mountain over one of New York's most beautiful lakes as opposed to a bridge. Yeah, that's Cornell again. </p>
<p>"to the poster who claimed the food offerings from Ithica are comparable to the ones in and around Berkeley" with confidence</p>
<p>"how many good dim sum parlors are within a half hour of campus? how many are among the best in the US?" 2 to be correct, not sure how many are best in the US, but we'll take the best Ice Cream in the US. There are two famous ice cream places (one being Purity ice cream, and the other being Cornell dairy).</p>
<p>"how authentic is the Mexican food around Ithica?" There is one incredible place in the Ithaca commons. I try to go there at least two or three times a month. Burritos are incredible especially with the homeade salsa. </p>
<p>"Do businessmen fly into Ithica from elsewhere to go to some local sushi bars, like they do in San Francisco?" They don't fly in for sushi. They do it for wine. Cornell is located in the Finger Lakes valley, the nearest winery is walking distance from campus. As a slight side note, I met Geddy Lee (the bassist from Rush) at a big winery last semester!</p>
<p>"Do you realize the incredible breadth of groceries and wines available yearround in the Bay Area while Ithica is frozen 5 months out of the 9 months-long schoolyear?" 3 months is the only time Ithaca is actually cold. Also, once again the whole wine thing. Does UCB offer a course in wine tasting that pumps enough information into a single class for students to become a wine expert after they pass? Cornell does...</p>
<p>"Do you realize how ludicrous it is to compare the food from an isolated hamlet in upstate New York to that from the epicenter of the North American food revolution?" Ithaca: more restaurants per capita than any other city in the USA!</p>
<p>"Do you put the Princeton review dorm food ranking above the ravings from Gourmet, Saveur, Food & Wine and other top foodie magazines about world-class SF/Berkeley restaurants and even about Berkeley street food?" You'll be eating on campus for at least two meals a day for 5 days a week. </p>
<p>Listen, my point is not to say Ithaca's food is better than SF's. But, it is not this hick village like you think it is. You are clearly uninformed on the topic. You can't even spell the name of the 6 letter city correctly so why are you making assumptions on it's restaurant scene. I know many students at Cornell who are stunned by the food both on and off campus. It's funny how you mention wine so much yet you dont seem to realize how Ithaca is right in the middle of the Finger Lakes wine country. I hope you aren't an accurate representation of all UCB students, I never knew such an inferiority complex existed!</p>
<p>No, Ithaca is not SF, but there are plenty of incredible restaurants. End of story.</p>
<p>As for law, I would have to say Cornell would be best. The pre-law advising at Cornell is very agressive. If you're up for a challenge, take ILRCB201 with professor Gold. It's one of the hardest courses at Cornell, but students who work hard will receive an incredible experience that prepares them for law school. This professor has finally found a way to teach undergraduates law (no model for it exists in the country). You'll study cases and learn how to interpret them accordingly. This will give you a boost for the LSAT's.</p>
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take ILRCB201 with professor Gold. It's one of the hardest courses at Cornell, but students who work hard will receive an incredible experience that prepares them for law school. This professor has finally found a way to teach undergraduates law (no model for it exists in the country).
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I don't know of one top law school that recommends learning law as an undergrad.</p>
<p>damn buddy, you are thick!</p>
<p>I don't know of one top law school that would be discouraged to hear of a course that teaches the critical reading and analysis skill that are so stressed in law school but never taught until grad school. And i'm not talking about learning law!!! I didn't learn how to "do law" it was the critical thinking skills that were emphasized. Lecture were divided into three sections: learn a skill in analysis (examples: analogies), learn how to identify them in a reading (usually a law case), and then learn how to write them on your own (research paper). The only thing 'labor law' about the course are the cases which are used. This, I believe, is the ultimate law school prep. The skills learned from a course like this will better prepare the OP for an important exam like the LSAT and the recommendation the professor writes includes a summation of the course itself which has proven to be very impressive when it comes to top law school admissions. This class alone is reason to go to Cornell especially for law school prep.</p>
<p>Ok, mr. contradiction:
You don't need to take a class that has anything to do with law to learn the "critical reading and analysis skill[s]" you are speaking of; in fact, a non-law class is preferable for breadth.</p>
<p>is anyone a Cornell Student? I just wanted to know if there are good tutors at Cornell...</p>
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<p>Carlos00784 mentioned going into law, which is fairly vague. As for any field of law, do some research on the names of undergrad schools, whether for: law firms, clerkships, pro bono work, judgeships, etc. </p>
<p>If you're looking for the number of students @ Yale Law School:</p>
<p>21 came from University of California at Berkeley; 7 from Cornell University.</p>
<p>If you're looking for the number of students @ Harvard Law School:</p>
<p>43 came from University of California at Berkeley; 40 from Cornell University.</p>
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If you're looking for the number of students @ Yale Law School:</p>
<p>21 came from University of California at Berkeley; 7 from Cornell University.</p>
<p>If you're looking for the number of students @ Harvard Law School:</p>
<p>43 came from University of California at Berkeley; 40 from Cornell University.
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<p>Pretty dumb arbument considering you have no idea how many students applied.</p>
<p>Also, the charts from Harvard's website (and I think Yale's) indicate how many students are from each school are attending the law school during that year; the chart does not distinguish among 1Ls, 2Ls, or 3Ls.</p>
<p><a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm%5B/url%5D">http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm</a></p>
<p>In 2005, one student from UCB was admitted at Yale Law School.</p>
<p>26 applied.</p>
<p>In 2005, 53 students applied to HLS and only... 4 were admitted.</p>
<p>Not to disparage Cal, but I do not think Cal is the best school for placing students into good law schools. With so many students, the administration will have set firm rules on grade distribution; when you allow the administration to have such a tight control on who attains what grade, very few will have the GPA necessary to be accepted in a top 14. Also look at the average GPA and LSAT of accepted students. Other undergraduate schools in the top 25 do not require nearly as much for such schools; for instance, the average GPA of Cal students admitted at HLS is a 3.94. The average Georgetown GPA going into HLS? 3.82.</p>
<p>Edit: And I think it is easier to earn an A at Georgetown than at Cal, not because we have grade inflation (it varies from school to school, here), but rather because we have much less students. The administration only applies grade distribution standards to intro courses (and I know for introduction to linguistics, the mean was set at B+).</p>
<p>I am pretty good friends with a Berkeley grad at Georgetown Law School, and he expressed the same sentiments.</p>
<p>I am not trying to say one school is better than the other (and with the size of Cornell, I am sure there are similar problems), but I really do not think going to a large school is best for students who intend to apply to top 14 schools.</p>
<p>nspeds, can you post the links to the Harvard and Yale law stats?</p>
<p>I do not know where Yale's is located.</p>
<p>thats not exactly correct. Becuase Berkeley is a public university and is so large not many students actually tell the career center if they were accepted or not. IF you actually read what the stats were about maybe you would understand this. Read the very bottom portion of the stats page.</p>