<p>Any comments on Cornell vs. Carnegie Mellon's 6-week summer architecture programs for high schoolers? We're planning Cornell since that's the college goal, but it is almost $9000 vs. about $6000. Oh, and would you suggest a top student need apply to more than one of these for a back-up summer option?</p>
<p>On a somewhat related note, I was reviewing threads from August '07, and would anyone (Sashimi maybe), mind updating me as to is everything stable at Cornell arch -- basically, when your Dean left, did many faculty follow suit? Or, just as good/stable as ever? Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>don't apply to both.. admissions is pretty much easy when you're willing to pay 9 grand for it.. i mean its not like they're going to say, please don't throw 9 grand at me... not to be cynical or anything.</p>
<p>a girl at my school did cornell last summer.. she liked it but it was for calculus not arch.</p>
<p>I'd go Cornell over CMU.
I went to Cornell and Syrcause for their programs, and they're pretty much the same, and I actually preferred the Syracuse one.
I do know someone that went to CMU, and their work seems slightly more based in art & crafts stuff than both Cornell/Syracuse, and there is also a really big focus on computer modeling. But that may be an unfair judgement on my behalf. </p>
<p>Basically what it comes down to any summer program is choosing one where you think you could succeed in and challenging yourself. On the downside, you do have to remember that summer programs are in many ways more intense than your typical school year, since studio meets everyday instead of every other day. Since Cornell is your goal, it would make sense to go for it instead of CMU. It is a good way to see if you'd like being an arch student at Cornell and how the profs are even though the curriculum has changed from what they still do in the summer program. So basically if you can succeed/be noticed, you're in good shape.</p>
<p>I guess it wouldn't hurt to apply to more than one program if you're unsure of where to go, but typically they just enroll on a rolling basis and don't reject anyone unless their essays show a real lack of interest or the student has some seriously bad grades that show that they won't be able to get through the summer program.</p>
<p>i attended the summer program at cornell and loved it. i can't judge for the cmu program because i have never attended their program but i'd say if cornell is somewhere you want to go, it'd be good to attend the cornell program. if you do especially well in that program you have a decent chance of getting in. you can also apply for financial aid for the cornell summer program if it is too expensive. i'm surprised it is 9000 dollars now...i paid 7000 three years ago.</p>
<p>currently we're searching for a dean right now and hopefully we'll be getting one by the end of this semester. the criteria for the dean is pretty rigorous and has a lot of high standards so i'm quite confident that the dean we'll choose will be good. cornell has always had largely a good reputation with alumni and has always attracted very talented students and visiting professors largely because of its reputation so i wouldn't worry too much about its quality of program. </p>
<p>there is fear that some faculty may leave now that mohsen is gone but i think it is more hyped up than it actually is. my current professors are incredibly smart and well known. i'm sure the new dean will be able to bring in great faculty as well.</p>
<p>i went to cmu - i also applied to cornell, but the price turned me off - i got a scholarship from cmu. i'm going to be as unbiased as i can:</p>
<p>cornell's pros:
- 6 credits!
- 6 IVY credits!
- best undergrad architecture program - get a headstart with the best!
- beautiful campus
- the standard college experience
- will give you a very accurate sense of what architecture will be like
- uhm, yummy food!</p>
<p>cmu's pros:
- better location! pittsburgh's not like nyc (my homecity!), but its a lot more exciting architecturally than ithaca will ever be
- a lot of help with abstract work - GREAT FOR PORTFOLIOS!
- very, very, nice 5th year studio to work in
- cheaper cheaper cheaper!
- pretty nice dorms
- nice, convenient transportation system
- exciting neigborhoods - art galleries, sport stadiums!
- amazing engineering works - check out the bridges!</p>
<p>cornell's cons:
- location bleh - how boring can you get with trees EVERYWHERE
- HOT HOT HOT weather...even in upstate ny, yes.
- hard, hard work for 6 ivy credits - credits = grades!
- price - 9 grand...not exactly an amount you can just pull out unless you're super rich haha</p>
<p>cmu's cons:
- pretty crappy food. actually one of the worst of all colleges.
- pretty crappy weather. always raining - there goes your project....
- no credits - actually 9 ELECTIVE credits ONLY if you enroll there.
- distracting neighborhoods - all the good food off campus and movies and shopping...oh, wait, we supposed to be here for an edumication...</p>
<p>if you wound up choosing cmu, definitely email me - i'll tell you anything you want :]</p>
<p>well think of it this way - 9000 = 6 credits.</p>
<p>and tuition is 34,000 for about 35-36 credits for the first year. that's about 1,000 per credit right?</p>
<p>okay and then housing and board is about 11,000 a year - break that into about 9 months of school and its like 1,200 a month or 300 a week.</p>
<p>so add it all up:
300 x 6 = 1800
1000 x 6 = 6000</p>
<p>thats already 7800</p>
<p>then add some fees for babysitting underage kids (just kidding...sorta), hiring counselors, dances, parties, materials, fees, intramurals, trips, and all other events...</p>
<p>that's about 9000 right there. i guess its worth it...if you have the money!</p>
<p>haha, i'm not rich. yeah, i might seem like it - camera, 2 houses, autographs, surfboards, etc....but those were before my dad screwed up his business a little.</p>
<p>oh and can i note? i dont get along with my parents at all. i'm practically financially independent...without a job? who knows...</p>
<p>architectures gonna give me a huge debt, but im crossing my fingers that those baby boomers will retire and give me some good jobs when i graduate :]</p>
<p>im NOT rich. i'm totally not the standard spoiled paris-hilton like Long Island chick. please, i HATE HATE HATE HATE them.</p>
<p>so please, nyc or la or boston take me awayyyyyy and land me in architecture land!</p>
<p>actually, im up doing scholarship work...a ridiculous amount of paper for scholarships that are liky 500 and 1000 dollars....yay! im going to buy 3 textbooks with that money. or maybe 100 peices of chipboard and a razor. hmm.</p>
<p>yeah i think i have totalled like 5000 dollars so far in scholarships. i am still waiting on one for like 10000 and one through my school worth 500.</p>
<p>ahaha "rich spoiled long island chick." lollll</p>
<p>i hate that ridiculous fafsa thing. i made like no money because my parents make too much. what the eff. we're like middle class. this society is screwed up haha</p>
<p>uhm...my EFC is like 15400 (who cares that im posting this) - and i only got 6500 from federal grants.</p>
<p>but so far, i've been lucky...tulane gave me 20,000. iit gave me 15,500. uhartford gave me 12,000. northeastern gave me 12,000. suny-buffalo (which is only like 4,500 anyways) gave me 2,500. pratt gave me 15,000.</p>
<p>but that's still not enough...plus i don't even want to really go to any of those anyways....architecture is tooooooo expensive ahhhhh. well..so is any college haha.</p>
<p>i dont know what people outside of NY think of long island girls - but i'll give you the rundown - gucci glasses, louis vuitton bags, a chihuahua, some prada shoes, drives a mercedes to SCHOOL that is like a 3 minute walk, etc...oh, can i also note...most of their stuff is fake anyways haha. the funny thing is people who aren't REALY rich here, pretend to be...and then pull themselves into a lot of debt. it's all about impressing others here...GROSS.</p>