<p>alright assuming i want to get into a top notch law school after undergrad, which school will give me a better chance at placement? I love both of these schools and cant decide wether to apply ILR ED at cornell or ED colgate...can anyone give me some advice??</p>
<p>Are you a NYS resident?</p>
<p>live in florida actually</p>
<p>ah, I would also love any comparison of these two schools, not just law school</p>
<p>some previous threads on these 2:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=299207%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=299207</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=299179%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=299179</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=246453%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=246453</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=208448%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=208448</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=180587%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=180587</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-83611.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-83611.html</a></p>
<p>Okay, but none of those compare Cornell CAS to Colgate...can anybody do that? prestige, recruiting, graduate school, ect, thanks</p>
<p>can anyone give me an unbiased opinion/ all of those links bring me to the colgate board...</p>
<p>Colgate and Cornell are both excellent schools, and they are different types of schools. Cornell is a large university and Colgate is a small liberal arts college. To a large extent, your choice may have to do with the different types of schools. </p>
<p>Colgate and Cornell both do a great job of preparing students for law school. Colgate sends a high percentage of its grads to law schools. Cornell CAS is more selective than Colgate and Cornell is more prestigious, but Colgate is very prestigious too. Cornell ILR is unique and has a particular focus. It is the best in its discipline. Recruiting is probably greater at Cornell but I don't think Colgate graduates are at any disadvantage regarding grad school/professional school/job placement.</p>
<p>It so happens that you are trying to choose between two really great schools that are very different from each other in style of education.</p>
<p>Colgate and Cornell both carry serious weight on the East Coast, with Cornell probably edging Clgate, but by a small margin. </p>
<p>Outside of the East Coast, from my experience, Cornell has the clear advantage.</p>
<p>For what it's worth, the Wall Street Journal lists Cornell as the #25 feeder school. List goes up to # 50 and it does not list Colgate.</p>
<p>Since you are from Fla you really need to visit both since they are quite different in size & location. Having visited both I would compare the size of town that Colgate in in (Hamilton) to DeLand where Stetson U. is in and Cornell is in Ithica which more closely resembles Gainesville where UF is.</p>
<p>You just then need to drop the humidity 40% in the summer and the temperature 40 deg in the winter and you and you'll get the jest of it.
You will unfortunatelly be there mostly for the 40 deg part.</p>
<p>cj- My d is in ILR and is contemplating Law School.</p>
<p>As she was never interested in a LAC environment, (thought it would be too small / too confining for her), she never considered Colgate. The campus environment of Cornell vs. Colgate may be a major deciding factor for some- so you really need to follow your instincts on that one- cause no one can say what will work better for you.
That said- ILR has a VERY specific curriculum- Including History of Labor- Collective Bargaining and a whole host of other courses. Please become familiar with the curriculum as those are the courses you will HAVE to take.<br>
If the courses "excite" you, then go for ILR. If you are not sure and want a broader based curriculum, then you may want to look into Colgate, or Cornell (A&S). I believe Cornell is allowing you to apply to 2 colleges this year. In the past you could only apply to one.
In terms of Law School acceptance- It is ALL GPA and LSAT!! Your UG degree from either Cornell or Colgate will be viewed pretty much the same IMO.<br>
And if your LSAT is really high, it ain't gonna matter where you got your degree from- A high LSAT ( 175 +) seems to outweigh almost anything!!<br>
I assume you visited both campuses- That is an absolute must as I said the campus environment at the 2 schools are very different. Good luck!</p>
<p>totally concur with marny. A Cornell diploma will carry no additional weight over a Colgate diploma for grad school, all other things (grades + test scores + ECs) being equal.</p>
<p>You should really visit both schools before tossing out an ED app. The campus "feel" is very different.</p>
<p>wow thanks everyone...i wish i could visit the campus, but im way to poor to fly all the way up to ny for a few days...can anyone compare the campuses?</p>
<p>Usually the smaller the school the less alumni network you meet</p>
<p>Please DO NOT apply to a school ED that you can't visit. Too much is at stake. With that said-- 2 pieces of advice.</p>
<p>1- Cornell and Colgate aren't too far from, Syracuse NY- See if you can get a cheap flight from Fla to Syracuse via Jet Blue or another airline (Southwest ??) It is definitely worth a trip, especially if you are applying ED. And if money is an issue, then you really have no right to apply early decision.</p>
<p>2- Next best thing to a campus visit is a "video" campus tour. Check out <a href="http://www.collegiatechoice.com%5B/url%5D">www.collegiatechoice.com</a> It's not the same as actually being on campus- but it is a definite first step. I checked the site- both Colgate and Cornell tours are available! I used the site for d # 2 as we were checking out U of Tampa for her. The quality of the films were ok, but it definitely gave us a decent first look at what the campus was like.</p>
<p>yah i just ordered the videos =)</p>
<p>can anybody who actually visited these places describe what these campus's are like?</p>
<p>They're two of the nicest campuses I've seen. Colgate is smaller and more intimate, but probably even liked it more.</p>