Cornell vs. Johns Hopkins

<p>Various consulting firms that I know of specifically come and recruit Hopkins Krieger Environmental engineering students for environmental consulting programs… I checked because I wasn’t an environmental engineering student… I wanted that internship $$$. Students in environmental engineering are very sought after for jobs in the federal government, private contracting consulting group corporations, etc… </p>

<p>Only Stanford, Caltech and Berkeley are better in Environmental engineering than JHU…</p>

<p>cornell’s biological engineering is #2…i would go to cornell…jhu got #6 on professors suck at teaching list from princeton review…</p>

<p>60K is a lot of money. I would go to Cornell. Plus JHU is almost NYU cheap when it comes to giving financial aid.</p>

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<p>It is hard to beat Johns Hopkins in biomedical engineering.</p>

<p>I think JHU based on size and location.<br>
Hopkins is a 1/3 of the size of Cornell. Cornell’s med school and hospital is all the way in NYC while Hopkins is a stone’s throw from the undergraduate campus. </p>

<p>I think Hopkins will give you more of what you want.</p>

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<p>For what it is worth, there are hospitals and medical schools (e.g. Vet School) a stone’s throw from Cornell’s campus that many undergraduates volunteer with.</p>

<p>What concerns me is that I’m not sure how determined I am to pursue biomedical engineering. I’m really not into mechanics and computer modeling, so if I don’t like this core engineering material, should I be in a different major? This is where my dilemma mostly lies because if I am not doing BME, idk if the additional tuition is worth it. </p>

<p>I think that I like the concept of engineering to solve current world issues like sustainable development (which is probably environmental engineering), and looking at health issues, like disease, in developing nations. But, this is probably drifting away from BME… </p>

<p>Is there a different major that seems to fit these criteria or is it better just to try engineering and see how it goes? I know its much easier to start in engineering and move out than the other way around. But, if I’m unsure about BME in itself, I wonder if a broader based program at Cornell is a better fit. On the flip side, I have heard that BME students at Hopkins are given more attention and care than engineering students at Cornell. gpa might be better too… </p>

<p>The less sure I am about engineering, the more sure I am about pre-med; it’s a wierd indirect relationship, lol. So, another aspect to consider, I suppose. Hopkins clearly has more options for hospital exposure, but from Cornell I can always come home during the summers and shadow doctors at the same hospitals that I volunteered at during high school.</p>

<p>“What concerns me is that I’m not sure how determined I am to pursue biomedical engineering. I’m really not into mechanics and computer modeling, so if I don’t like this core engineering material, should I be in a different major? This is where my dilemma mostly lies because if I am not doing BME, idk if the additional tuition is worth it.”</p>

<p>Me neither! But since you’re not 100% set on BME, I would recommend Cornell. Personally, out of the Hopkins programs, BME is the only one I’ve ever heard of. Besides, Cornell is cheaper and, like you said, you’re more familiar with its campus. I would definitely choose Cornell over Hopkins.</p>

<p>Yes, more hospital exposure at the #1 hospital in the world if it matters :smiley: Ppl talk a lot about the med school, but the Johns Hopkins Hospital has been ranked the #1 hospital for the past 18 years in a row… ABC did two TV documentaries on the Hopkins hospital…the most recent one was in 2008…</p>

<p>zouiwie: I’m not familiar with any Cornell programs either besides engineering, hotel school, and veterinary sciences…??</p>

<p>Both schools are phenomenal in a LOT of things.</p>

<p>Hopkins is world renowned for: International Relations (undergrad AND grad), Public Health (#1 for the past many years), Writing Seminars, BME, Nursing, Neuroscience, etc.
Hopkins is excellent-to-unbeatable in just about every single field it offers.</p>

<p>Cornell is great too: renowned for: engineering, hotel school, vet science, computer science, but is good at everything as well.</p>

<p>it’s not like Hopkins only offers one good thing. Just as Cornell is not only a vet/hotel school.</p>

<p>They are both phenomenal. It all comes down to fit, location, opportunities, and environment. Frankly, I think Hopkins will give you more of the opportunities you want with less undergrads to compete for attention, and the amazingness of the BME program simply has no rivals.</p>

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<p>That’s fantastic. Although somebody forgot to remind you that there are plenty of fantastic med schools and hospitals with a name other than Johns Hopkins.</p>

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<p>Meh. Except for the fact that the graduate program is not in Baltimore. </p>

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<p>How about architecture, evolutionary biology, English, american studies, labor relations, biometry and statistics, human development, applied economics, chemistry, Romance studies, German, and physics?</p>

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<p>I also doubt this.</p>

<p>^ yeah, but if you mention all those things for cornell, I can also mention: English, history, egyptology, english composition, computer science, biology, cellular biology, molecular biology, economics, psychology, cognitive science, environment science, environmental engineering, applied physics, French, German, and Spanish for Hopkins What’s your point?</p>

<p>Also, SAIS is a heartbeat away from Baltimore. Hopkins’ undergrad IR is top notch and is actually the most popular major there. At least there is a 45 minute access away from DC, making it possible to intern year round, where as Cornell is 5 hours from the closest international city.</p>

<p>and also, Hopkins has 4400 undergrads compared to well over 10,000 undergrads at Cornell. In total, there are only 5000+ Hopkins students on campus. the sheer number advantage is in Hopkins’ favor.</p>

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<p>and what is their proximity to Cornell? And how many Cornellians get jobs/internships there year round?</p>

<p>I know for a fact that the Hopkins Medical School regularly has many many job openings on the student job site with offerings for undergraduate students. There is also a free shuttle bus from the JHU campus to the medical campus that runs about every hour or so.</p>

<p>What about Cornell??? Do they have access to the largest and most advanced hospital in the DC-Baltimore region, and the best hospital in the world? Do they have access to some of the best medical researchers in the country who regularly post openings on the student job site? lol</p>

<p>At the OP: maybe you want to check out the [url=<a href=“http://www.sts.cornell.edu/programbsoc.php]Biology”>http://www.sts.cornell.edu/programbsoc.php]Biology</a> and Society Major<a href=“offered%20in%20CALS”>/url</a> and [url=<a href=“http://www.nutrition.cornell.edu/che/DNS/academic/hbhsin.cfm]Human”>http://www.nutrition.cornell.edu/che/DNS/academic/hbhsin.cfm]Human</a> Biology, Health and Society<a href=“in%20HumEc”>/url</a>. Seem to fit your need of biology doing good in the world and can still be used with premed.</p>

<p>Remember, you are neither bound to your intended major or School when you set foot on Cornell’s campus. Changing either is not hard if you feel it is the right move.</p>

<p>Haha, well this debate is starting to drift from my situation, but thanks for all of the advice. I actually calculated tuition difference and it turns out to be more like $72,000. This is becoming a pretty hefty amount, and given that I’m not sure about my interest in biomedical engineering, I’m think I’m leaning towards Cornell. Both of my parents are doctors and I know some people at Bristol Meyer Squibb, so I think I’ll be able to find some sort of internship and volunteer opportunities regardless. I’ll have to get a master for engineering, and MBA, or go to med school after undergrad anyway (and I’d rather do clinical medicine than research), so my college choice isn’t really the end-all. It might be better to save that money for graduate school. If anyone else has some opinions, I’d still be happy to hear them.</p>

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Hopkins Arts & Sciences: 3219
Cornell Arts & Sciences: 4142</p>

<p>Hopkins Engineering: 1373
Cornell Engineering: 2808</p>

<p>There’s a size difference but not a significant one.</p>

<p>^ u don’t factor in Cornell’s other schools which also take classes in the schools of arts and sciences and engineering.</p>