<p>Cornell vs. NYU Stern - my ultimate dilemma.</p>
<p>Having visited both schools, I can safely say that while both of them are very different from each other, they both match what I need/want in a college. Both have great programs for whatever I want to eventually study and both locations are amazing.</p>
<p>After visiting Cornell, I was pretty sure I wanted to attend. Given the food, the atmosphere, it was a wonderful experience. However, every time I try to make a decision, I always think about the job opportunities as well as possible internships I could get from attending Stern. Since Stern is located right near Wall Street, many firms hire a lot of undergrads for internships and eventually, jobs. While some firms hire from Cornell as well, the amount they hire is most likely less than that of Stern.</p>
<p>But after leaning towards Stern, the thoughts of loans hit me. From Stern, I would be graduating with about 80k-100k in debt while after Cornell, I would be graduating with about 25-30k in debt. </p>
<p>So my question is, what should I do? Both schools are great. SIGH.</p>
<p>If you’re getting that much money from Cornell, then come to Cornell. Stern is awesome, but so is Cornell, and graduating with 65-70K less debt is even more awesome.</p>
<p>Um. At this point, I’d say follow the money. Sure, Stern may have better opportunities (I don’t know anything about this, so I’ll take your word for it), but Cornell will have its fair share, and I’m sure you’ll be proactive enough to position yourself for these appropriately.</p>
<p>Lol if there IS any difference in the amount of banks that recruit ugrads here vs. Stern, I don’t see it.</p>
<p>You forget that internships jobs will take place over the summer, where you are free to live wherever you want, regardless of your school’s location. Employers know this, and thus recruit for internships and jobs at good schools, regardless of location.</p>
<p>A most likely untrue assertion. And if it is true, it is only because a lot of Cornellians are interested in other things than banking. The ones interested in banking do just fine.</p>
<p>I have basically been putting a lot of my consideration onto the financial aspect. It’s already pretty clear that both schools can and will provide a great education, but the ~70k less in debt is enticing.</p>
<p>i would say more/equal banks recruit cornell than stern. cornell is a much better school than NYU in general and that is reflected in the recruiting. furthermore cornell aem/hotel both are very well regarded on wall street. all of the top tier firms recruit cornell. i cant directly speak for nyu, because i know their stern program is recruited as well, but i know from experience in my internship and friends who are working in finance now you wont be at a disadvantage in terms of recruiting here.</p>
<p>both have very nyc centric recruiting. cornell will offer you a much more traditional college experience vs going to nyu where you are basically just attending classes while living in ny. if you go to cornell, there is a high chance you will intern in ny at some point or live there after grad.</p>
<p>Yeah, this seems like a pretty easy decision, if you ask me. Money aside, I had many friends who were far happier with their college experience after they transferred from NYU to Cornell. There’s a lot to be said for having an actual campus experience.</p>
<p>I’m an NYU student and my advice is, please do yourself a favor and go to Cornell. </p>
<p>NYU and Cornell have completely different environments. NYU has no campus, is a bunch of buildings scattered around Greenwich Village, no real sense of community; people often say they don’t feel like they’re in college but living in NYC and occasionally going to class. It’s great for very independent people who love NYC and would be bored by a traditional experience in a place like Ithaca. Stern is very competitive and I’ve met students who hate it but are dealing with it just for the prestige, plus they all want to go into Finance so it becomes more competitive for Stern grads.</p>
<p>Cornell is overall more prestigious and AEM is ranked very highly. You can do internships in the summer, plenty of Stern students don’t have internships during the year. Plus Cornell will give you a real undergrad college experience in a collegetown like Ithaca, whereas at NYU you’re hopping from subway to subway and darting past hobos to get to class. Like I said, NYU is a better environment for a certain kind of person but you said you prefer Cornell.</p>
<p>Btw NYU’s FA is horrible and they handed out fliers recently stating in light of the financial crisis, they urge students having financial problems to transfer to a CUNY and transfer back to NYU later. Meanwhile, Cornell is doing everything it can to help students with FA. It’s a no-brainer - pick Cornell!!</p>
<p>I used to go to NYU and transferred to Cornell. It’s the best damn thing I’ve ever done. I have tons of friends at Stern who are unemployed and completely screwed. I just finished up my Citigroup Private Banking internship over winter and am interning at Goldman Sachs in about a month.</p>
<p>Stern has a notorious curve you should be aware of. Also, NYU has around 40k students–many of whom will be applying to the same finance-related internships that you will be applying to, but firms often only take 10 students per division maximum. Cornell has 13k students and a sick die-hard alumni base (landed me my Citi internship a couple months ago). The ratio plays a big role.</p>
<p>I only pay 20k a semester + 7 for dorming. NYU was 37 + i think 10 for dorming. Your choice.</p>
<p>^ it’s like $12k for for a dorm, aka a teensy walk-in closet shoebox downtown. oh yeah, and after freshman year the dorms get further and further away til by senior year you’re still dorming but need to take the subway to get to class and tuition was just bumped to $38k, thank you JSex, you useless shlump. </p>
<p>Btw you know that rumor about Cornell’s suicide rate? False. But have you heard the rumor about NYU’s? the suicide rate is one of the highest for American colleges. </p>
<p>Haha I love how the NYU students are urging you to pick Cornell :p</p>
<p>Although I am overcome with joy at the prospect of attending Cornell in the fall, I feel that some of the statements regarding NYU are completely false and should hitherto have clarity afforded to them. This year I was faced with the same dilemma the original poster is inquiring about, and in the process of this dilemma I researched each institution to a substantial degree. Firstly, the fliers about SUNY were propaganda by the same group that took over the Kimmel Center and they are utterly false in nature. Secondly, my financial award from NYU was actually larger than the award Cornell is giving me (although by a meager amount) and while this may be on a merit basis, I think that many in a situation similar to mine will have the same choice. NYU is a great institution and we all should respect the potentcy Stern displays every year in their class of graduates, but Cornell simply has so many opportunities to the individual that would look to combine business with another discipline. Cornell has a campus that is second to none in terms of the nostalgic college atmosphere, and Cornell exhibits the same vibrant atmosphere felt in the big city. </p>
<p>Essentially though Cornell is just predisposed for greatness. :)</p>
<p>Cauliflower, it is nice of you to point out the merits of NYU, but are you even a student? Jay1020 attended NYU and I’m a current student, and we’re simply sharing why we feel NYU would not be a good choice for someone like the OP who clearly favors Cornell and is even getting better FA. No one is disrespecting Stern, we have acknowledged they are both great schools…but notice that the students who actually went to NYU are warning the OP about our regrets in picking the school. </p>
<p>Now, like i said, NYU is a better school for a certain kind of person, and for the Arts/Theatre/Film, it’s a no-brainer. But the OP seems to prefer Cornell but is leaning towards NYU because he thinks it will be perceived better on Wall Street…believe me, I have classmates who made the same mistake and openly hate it here but are sticking it out for Wall St benefits down the road…not a smart decision to make imo.</p>
<p>I am not trying to contradict your sentiments in any way as I am actually benefitting from hearing them before I put ink to the paper and send in my deposit fee. I was simply dismissing the notion with the CUNY and SUNY fliers that had gone around campus, and I was also stating that NYU’s financial aid is comparable in some cases to Cornell’s. I do though have a friend that goes to NYU and she is quite ardent in telling me all the merits of NYU, so she has repeatedly told me that all of these things aforementioned are stigmas that have been attached to NYU. Although financial aid is conceivable as being a little sub par in some areas.</p>
<p>I live in the wall street area. My aunt also works on wall street and i know many others who also work there. The Ivy League is impressive on wall street, as is stern. However, they are viewed pretty equally. Between the two, pick the one that you will get the best grades at an be happiest at. GPA will be the tipping point between the two.</p>
and tuition was just bumped to $38k, thank you JSex, you useless shlump. </p>