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<p>Your nurse practitioner needs to take a class or two in meteorology, lol. Ithaca is actually 18th on the list. Cities like Seattle, Portland – and many others – actually have more cloudy days:</p>
<p>[Cloudiest</a> Cities](<a href=“http://www.123syracuse.com/cloudycities.html]Cloudiest”>http://www.123syracuse.com/cloudycities.html)</p>
<p>point is that philly isnt on that list…</p>
<p>now i’m not here to support upenn over cornell…but the facts are there…</p>
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<p>Philly has 160 cloudy days a year. Or roughly 3 more cloudy days a month, on average.</p>
<p>I can think of a lot more important things to base one’s college decision than 3 more cloudy days a month.</p>
<p>@Resurgam - The “point” is that you posted, in this case, data that is significantly wide of the mark. Also, Cayuga reads the actual data perfectly above.</p>
<p>Rainy Days (huge difference!):
Philly = 117 Rainy Days
Ithaca = 67.6 Rainy Days
([Weatherbase:</a> Historical Weather for Ithaca, New York, United States of America](<a href=“Ithaca, New York Travel Weather Averages (Weatherbase)”>Ithaca, New York Travel Weather Averages (Weatherbase)))</p>
<p>Precipitation (Philly has 16% more precipitation):
Philly = 40.9 inches
Ithaca = 35.3 inches</p>
<p>^Thanks, Hopingdad, for digging deeper and giving us some very enlightening weather statistics!</p>
<p>Just wondering how my mom should go about negotiating with Cornell fin.aid office. When I visited, the fin.aid lady flat out said “We don’t match other schools” which I know is a lie because NJBkitty was standing with me in that room and already got them to raise her fin.aid close to Penns…
Should my mom ask to talk to like a fin.aid assistant director or something? (My mom will be calling them. I’m traveling again.)
And will a printout of my online Penn financial aid revision be enough? They just changed it so I don’t expect a revision letter in the mail for a while.</p>
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<p>Yes, they definitely do match need-based financial aid offers from other schools. That is why I am at Cornell right now and not Penn.</p>
<p>I faxed the official Penn financial aid offer to the Cornell financial aid office and they basically gave me wayyyy more money than Penn. I don’t know what you should do in your situation though… I’m not sure if a printout of your online Penn financial aid revision will be enough. Definitely call them, and tell them about your situation. They should be understanding. Best of luck!</p>
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<p>Are you all completely stoned? Either that, or you’re just extremely poor with data extraction.</p>
<p>Penn has more rain because it’s WARMER.</p>
<p>Cornell has almost as much rain, and WAY MORE SNOW!</p>
<p>Check it out:
Philly average snowfall: 20.8 inches
Ithaca average snowfall: 66 inches</p>
<p>[Weatherbase:</a> Historical Weather for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America](<a href=“Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Travel Weather Averages (Weatherbase)”>Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Travel Weather Averages (Weatherbase))
[Weatherbase:</a> Historical Weather for Ithaca - Cornell University, New York, United States of America](<a href=“Ithaca - Cornell University, New York Travel Weather Averages (Weatherbase)”>Ithaca - Cornell University, New York Travel Weather Averages (Weatherbase))</p>
<p>That’s a whopping 300% difference there, folks. Kind of makes the rain difference seem, I don’t know… completely insignificant?</p>
<p>Honestly, your stupidity makes me want to throw up. Especially since your wording was so self-righteous.</p>
<p>I’m truly aghast that you missed such a giant step in your analysis. Snow is what keeps the roads wet and slick for so much of the winter at Cornell! In Philadelphia, that’s 70% less of a problem.</p>
<p>I really can’t believe you tried to seriously argue that you had better weather.</p>
<p>Dear god almighty.</p>
<p>Yes, I realize that I specified rain, but what I meant was wetness - what makes pedestrians and bikers wet, need not only be rain. Snow is also made out of water.</p>
<p>I still can’t believe that you overlooked SNOWFALL of all things.</p>
<p>And just so you know: the only reason that Philly has 5 inches more rain that Cornell, is because it’s actually WARM enough here to rain - that stuff would come down as snow in Ithaca, where it’s 8 degrees colder. That temperature difference goes a long way when it’s 38 and raining and Philly, and 30 and snowing hard in Ithaca.</p>
<p>^To paraphrase the Bard: “The inconclusive lady-or-man doth protest too much.”</p>
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<p>This is a meaningless statement. Do you think I’m trying to cover something up? What? That you guys are buffoons who are utterly incapable of cogent argument?</p>
<p>The data is all on the weather sites that Cayuga2005 or whoever posted.</p>
<p>All you have to do is look at the 40 inch-difference in snowfall, and you realize how idiotic he was to write that.</p>
<p>Why did you first list yourself as a guy, and then list yourself as a girl, on these boards? This fact seems to say something about your trustworthiness right up front.</p>
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<p>I actually think its your analysis that is a bit shoddy, muerte. Anybody vaguely familiar with meteorological principals realizes that precipitation includes both snow and rain. To control for the differing moisture content of snow and rain, meteorologists melt the snow to determine the amount of water that has come down from on high.</p>
<p>So, yes, Ithaca gets absolutely less wet stuff falling from the sky than Philadelphia.</p>
<p>Beyond this, there is the fact that I think most people would agree with me that they would much rather experience 25 degrees and snowing than 35 degrees and raining. There is nothing worse than a cold, drenching rain. Snow just brushes right off, and actually serves as a heat insulator, believe it or not.</p>
<p>Going back a little in the conversation… about the finaid, is it true that Cornell usually beats other offers? Because for me, they just barely matched Penn. Actually, Cornell still ends up being a bit more expensive… :/</p>
<p>This Penn vs Cornell (and Brown and Dartmouth) feud is ridiculous. I went into Cornell thinking it was a top 5 school. I was wrong, it isn’t, and neither is Penn (I don’t care what US News says). Just accept it. Cornell and Penn are not at the same level as HYP. They’re just not.</p>
<p>Comparing Cornell and Penn is splitting hairs. Most people confuse Penn with Penn State (I know this b/c I’ve personally seen it happen to one of my friends). Most people consider Corenll the Ivy League safety (but we’re catching up Penn, with a much bigger size even!!) or the Ivy League public school. It’s dumb. They both offer great educations and while there are plenty of dummies at both places, many students are capable and if they’re not, at least they try hard and care about academics. Neither of this schools will be Harvard or Princeton, so get over it. No amount of message board snickering will change that.</p>
<p>Dude, no one thinks Cornell is top 5, and Penn isn’t HYP either, but you have to admit that, TRUE OR NOT (and the distinction is hazy, I’ll be the first to say it), Columbia, Penn Brown and Dartmouth are considered by the vast majority of kids applying to college to be a tier above Cornell.</p>
<p>What effect does this have on education? 0. So who cares? Stop arguing about it.</p>
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<p>I’m honeslty not sure. I wouldn’t completely rule that out. However, I do know that the average person on the street will be impressed equally by Columbia, Dartmouth, Brown, and Cornell. You’ll only garner a ‘wow’ if it’s HYP.</p>
<p>Actually, you’ll never garner a “wow”, because most people have enough self-respect to not trip over themselves when they meet people who have/had more connections than they do. And from my experience, all of the Ivies - including Cornell - get that “wow” that you’re talking about.</p>