cornellians...Why Cornell over Stanford?

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<p>Both probably true. </p>

<p>By the way there is a pesky probelm with grade inflation ... grad schools and employeers are going to ask about class rank ... with grade inflation the grades are bunched together much more closely ... and this makes the differences in class rank much less reliable ... class selections and professor grading policies can substantially change your rank. If grades are more disbursed then the ranking is much more robust ... and this is a good thing when it comes to applying to grad school and getting a job (unless you like having a equal chances of your class rank being higher than it probably should be or it being lower than it probably should be)</p>

<p>Stanford gets around that by not ranking its classes.</p>

<p>There is no campus that can hold a candle to Cornell's. Problem of course is that there fewer sunny days in upstate New York then in California. 3TOGO and Grey Beard do a good job of summing up the Cornell experience. I went there in the early 80's and have a daughter heading off to the hill next fall.</p>

<p>Cornell (like Stanford) has so much to offer, there's actually too much. I'd like another four years and will undoubtedly live vicariously though our daughter. I could never see going to a smaller ivy or one of the LAC's. No hotelies, no engineering geeks, no ILR's, no architects, etc... Cornell has the smallest Liberal Arts College in the IVYs, but its surrounded by an INCREDIBLE research university.</p>

<p>Stanford is nice, but for me I like a little rain and snow with my sunny days. That way when the sun does shine, people REALLY appreciate it.</p>

<p>My two cents,</p>

<p>Wharf</p>

<p>Rat, what college did you attend? Is your daughter attending the same one?</p>

<p>Wharf,</p>

<p>Did you happen to take Amos West's course on oenology when you were at Cornell?</p>

<p>Grey Beard - I did take wine tasting and thoroughly enjoyed it. </p>

<p>Hotelie 2009 - I was in Arts & Sciecnces and so will my daughter be.</p>

<p>Wharf,</p>

<p>I'm disappointed - you missed my allusion to your pen name.</p>

<p>Grey - </p>

<p>Too Early in the A.M. I guess. The vintage was right though. As I'm sure you know '77 was a VERY good year for GD Wine at Cornell. </p>

<p>I too have a touch of _________.</p>

<p>What long strange trip its been.</p>

<p>Wharf</p>

<p>I remember it well - Barton Hall, my first "show".</p>

<p>Jerry also made a nice appearance at Ithaca College the previous fall.</p>

<p>Grey,</p>

<p>That's great! I didn't arrive on the fill until the fall of '79 so I missed the '77 show, but I did make the next Barton Hall appearence... I think it was '81. I did see them in many locations around upstate New York. Speaking of music... one of my few regrets about my Cornell years was not going to see Bob Marley over at Colgate on Halloween in the fall of '80 (I think). He died shortly thereafter. I also skipped Little Feat and Lowell George at Ithaca College. He too died soon thereafter. </p>

<p>I guess the moral of those experiences for all you kids is don't spend all your time in the Library. Make sue you get to the numerous "cultural" events that are offered. That's what memories are made of..</p>

<p>Wharf</p>

<p>I too was accepted to both Cornell and Stanford and chose to go to Cornell, a decision that I have never regreted. I visited both campuses and just felt more comfortable at Cornell even though I was from the west coast. Cornell with its diversity of programs (show me farmers and future chefs at Stanford) , gritty but quaint college town and beautiful but ecentric campus gave off more of a feel of reality while Stanford felt more like a country club. I have been out for 20 years now and the perception of the Engineers I have worked with from the two schools is much the same as my perception of the two schools when I visited. Stanford grads are smart overprivledged and whiney while Cornell Engineers are smart tough and resourceful. One might take note of the hands on programs in both engineering schools. In the most important project based engineering competitions (formula sae, robocup soccer, etc.) Cornell dominates while Stanford either does not participate or does poorly. </p>

<p>Besides once one goes to Cornell Hockey game all other sports seem boring and pathetic.</p>

<p>Go Red!</p>

<p>Hahah I found this comment interesting: "Cornell is definitely the most stanford-like Ivy (in curriculum and focus), so it may turn out that in a few years Cornell will have more punch than Stanford. Plus, the Ivy-marking is a permanent status symbol.....Stanford has to try much harder to stay on top year after year."<br>
Cornell is similar to Stanford is probably due to the fact that Stanford modeled after Cornell at its beginning! Stanford's first president is a student of AD White's. Initially, Stanford tried to lure AD White away, but AD White recommended his student to Stanford.<br>
I seriously doubt that Stanford would ever have to worry about not being an Ivy league university. Stanford is probably the richest west coast university on the west coast, and it has silicon valley right next to it. The future of US's biomedical research is probably going to flourish at cali due to stem cell research, and Stanford will benefit from it. Stanford econ is the only econ department that can compete against Harvard in year and year out for econ superstar faculties. The public reputation, resource, research potential and the great weather put Stanford's overall status ahead of most of the Ivies (you can even argue that Stanford is better than 6 or 7 out of 8 ivies).</p>

<p>Go to Stanford!! Not even a question...</p>

<p>To be honest, I am still hurting over my Stanford waitlist. I was obviously well qualified, as is evidenced over other acceptances, and my dad went there for grad school. Nevertheless, I feel that this pain is being assuaged by Cornell's excellent reputation and scholarship for me. </p>

<p>Now that I look at it, Stanford and Cornell are probably more equally great than I think they are. (Particularly for my major(s): physics or Engineering Physics) I just have this euphoric view of Stanford cuz of the name, the place, and the family tie. If it were me, I would go to Stanford for reasons that really make no sense, and are not based in logic. If I had to make the logical decision, forgetting emotion, etc, I would be dead split. Visits would yield the right result.</p>

<p>Go to Stanford you lucky......</p>

<p>lol</p>

<p>Newayz, Cornell is so frickin awesome, but I would choose Stanford because of aforementioned reasons. You are very blessed to have the option of going there. CONGRATS!</p>

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I just have this euphoric view of Stanford cuz of the name, the place, and the family tie.

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Dude, it's time for you to create your own family tie with Cornell with the euphoric view of its name and place. Oooh beautiful beautiful Ithaca! :)</p>

<p>Ah, indeed. I have heard that one before. (Others have euphoric views of Cornell like I do of Stanford.) You are completely right. Besides, I can create my own tie to Cornell undergrad, as my Stanford legacy parent actually attended Michigan State for undergrad. No loyalty there...
I am very proud of Cornell. Just as proud of it as Stanford.</p>

<p>If I were choosing between Cornell and Stanford, I would probably go with Stanford for "better reputation" purposes because Stanford is ranked with HYPM. Though both schools are VERY known internationally, Stanford has a slight edge over Cornell. However, in the end, for location purposes, I would go to Cornell. It's because I can't see myself all the way on the west coast. Also, choosing Cornell won't be a bad option because Cornell is a member of the Ivy League, which automatically gives Cornell name recognition and prestige.</p>

<p>not exactly. The ivy league is just a sports league designed to keep similar performing teams in line with each other for fairness. That fact has already been established. However, Stanford is more prestigious any way you slice it. Plus, it's Californa! I would not second guess Stanford just because you are turning down an ivy league. My friend is turning down Princeton, MIT, and Yale for Duke!</p>

<p>Edit: <em>Puts on flame retardant suit</em></p>

<p>LOL, u know what's ironic. If you go to the Stanford board, they'll tell you Stanford. If it's Cornell, vice versa. Do you realize you are conversing with people who are ready to pour out 40 thou for this school? Why the hell would they tell you to go to Stanford?</p>

<p>Just a further historical note--not only was Stanford's first president, David Starr Jordan, from Cornell, but over half of its initial faculty was as well--Cornell, Stanford and Duke have all done well despite being hundreds of years younger than the seven other Ivies--</p>