<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>I'm a prospective transfer student to Cornell who's interested in working in China/Greater East Asia after graduation. I know brand name matters in image oriented societies such as those, so I was wondering what exactly is Cornell's reputation in that region of the world? Would Cornell's name open many doors(as opposed to NYU or Michigan)? </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Mistasuggs</p>
<p>I’m from China and Cornell has much more reputation than NYU or Michigan there, since most of them know the name “ivy league”.</p>
<p>I see, so because it’s an Ivy most people in China respect it? I didn’t know the Ivy name was that far reaching…</p>
<p>Taiwan should have a good impression of Cornell because of this guy: [Lee</a> Teng-hui - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Teng-hui]Lee”>Lee Teng-hui - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>I was born in Hong Kong and interned in China (Beijing) and my impression is that yes “ivy league” is of good repute but very very few of the general population know which schools are in the ivy league besides Harvard and Yale (never heard of Princeton until high school senior year. or any of the other ivies including my alma mater for that matter). </p>
<p>I know international conglomerate companies that operate in that region recognize Cornell (Swire, Bain) but I have put zero effort in the Asia region so my knowledge is limited.</p>
<p>I have nothing to add about Cornell vs Mich/NYU.</p>
<p>Cornell is very well known in Asia, not just because it is an Ivy. It is probably better known than Dartmouth, Brown, or Penn. As mentioned by fallenmerc, one of Taiwan’s presidents went to Cornell.</p>
<p>I think Cornell is also more well known in Asia than Dartmouth/Brown/Penn because of it’s strong College of Engineering.</p>
<p>Yes I heard about the Taiwanese president who wrote an influential paper on agriculture. Interesting… I’ve heard Cornell is more reputed than Brown, Dartmouth, and Penn because of the president and its strength in the pure sciences as opposed to those schools’s strengths in the social sciences/humanities. Can anyone confirm this?</p>
<p>Fallenmrc, in such image oriented societies such as those of the far east wouldn’t the Ivy brand name represent a huge advantage? I heard people will give you an interview merely on the basis of hailing from an Ivy.</p>
<p>Cornell is famous in East Asia, only next to Harvard. Asians all know about Ivy League schools as a whole but they rarely know all the names of the eight schools. (They are obsessed with the Ivy League brand name, knowing students of these schools are the symbol of intelligence) </p>
<p>The name recognition of Cornell isn’t because of President Lee’s Ph.D. paper for sure.</p>
<p>Many of Taiwanese political figures are Ivy League graduates. When Lee was president, instead of just saying he graduated from an Ivy League school, they spelled out that it was ‘Cornell’. In Lee’s years, Taiwan-China tension was extremely high because he advocated Taiwan’s independence. China tried to influence international community to not recognize Taiwan as a nation.</p>
<p>When Lee visited US and gave a speech on Cornell campus upon Cornell’s invitation, China protested and US ignored it…. That was the headline in newspapers in many countries. Since then, almost every Asian (especially Taiwanese and Chinese) college students and scholars recognize the name ‘Cornell’ if you say it in their language.
Asians are very much into Engineering and medicine (Not Law, because general impression is that Lawyers are not truthful). And they found out Cornell is the strongest in Engineering among the Ivies, the reputation elevated even more.</p>
<p>If you tell an Asian you are going to an ‘Ivy League’ university they say ‘Wow!’, if you say ‘Harvard’ or ‘Cornell’, they say ‘Wow!’ Yale, Princeton, and Columbia are recognized by Asian-Americans but not East Asians. Brown, Dartmouth, and Penn are unheard of to East Asians and known to a small populations of Asian-Americans.</p>
<p>^+1
Blunt and truthful. Wouldn’t change a thing.</p>
<p>I only post first/2nd hand experiences and opinions. I did not try to apply for jobs in the Asia region, and I don’t know anyone from Cornell who did besides the aforementioned Swire/Bain. Therefore, I won’t make any statements that would confirm/deny that " Ivy brand name represent a huge advantage".</p>
<p>As someone mentioned before, yes most people in China know ivy league but could only count Harvard and Yale. But if you tell them you go to an ivy, they would “Wow”.
I would say other ivies (Penn, Cornell, Columbia, Brown, Princeton) are of the same reputation here in mainland China. I don’t know about what it is like in Taiwan.
Seldom do people know Dartmouth.
Fun fact: Out of the five maybe Brown is the most famous one because of Emma Watson. The popularity of Harry Potter in China is beyond your imagination…
However, my suggestion is don’t worry too much about reputation. Although general population may not know much about the ivies, people in industry know them very well. It all depends on your major. For example a CS company might even know Georgia Tech or UIUC(they certainly know Cornell is better 
), and in the bussiness companies people certainly know NYU and Stern(Although not as reputable as Wharton or Tuck).
And of course, an ivy would open many doors for you, but you need to show expertise in your area to get hired in China. Besides that, learn Mandarin well.</p>
<p>My goal is to eventually break into banking/consulting in Hong Kong. And then eventually move into the Chinese market.</p>
<p>If your goal is HK/China banking/consulting, then Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Penn-Wharton education will help you quite a bit, Columbia/Cornell a bit less so, with Brown/Dartmouth even less. Stanford/MIT/Cal/CalTech are highly regarded though.</p>
<p>Yeah, I have absolutely not shot of getting into Harvard(the only school you mentioned in the top tier I applied to). Would you guys say Columbia has a significant edge over Cornell in the region?</p>
<p>Also, guys. Is there much of a rivalry between the academic colleges at Cornell? Here at NYU, if you’re not Stern, then you’re essentially a second class citizen in your own university. It’s quite sad and makes for a terrible environment.</p>
<p>There’s good natured ribbing about AEM kids having no work/hotel kids being dumb/ILR=i love reading, but no real animosity.</p>
<p>Ah great, it’s pretty terrible at NYU actually. The Stern coordinators apparently told all the income Sternies that they’re the “cream of the crop” at NYU. Also that they should be “honored” to be a Sternie. It was pathetic, really.</p>
<p>So anyone who isn’t interested in business is a second class citizen? What about economics? Their economics program is arguably better than their business program.</p>
<p>I was going to apply to NYU as an econ major, but it is horrendously expensive (something to the tune of $60,000+ per year with no aid) so I decided not to.</p>
<p>Among the 400+ Ph.D. friends who are scholars or professors who came from China and went to graduate schools in the U.S. , all of them knew Harvard and Cornell (in mandrine: Hafu and Kan Nai Er. and maybe Yale but mistaken it as a British university in line with Oxford or Cambridge) but almost none of them knew Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia, or even Princeton are in the Ivy League before they came to the States.</p>
<p>Then when they were here in the U.S. and finishing up their Master’s/looking for universities for their Ph.D. programs some of them realized those schools are Ivy League universities. For those who received their Ph.D. from non-ivy universities, they still didn’t know about all Ivy universities until their child/children get to the college conscious age.</p>
<p>With so much internet information in recent years it may gradually be different in China among high school students who are interested in applying to American universities. However it will still take a long time for the general public to know which ones are in the Ivy League.</p>
<p>Brown may now be known in China because of Emma Watson. I know in Asia actors/actresses are not always considered as intelligent. So I am not sure the image of Emma Watson goes to Brown is helping or hurting.</p>
<p>Even now, a friend is constantly posting introductions about Penn, founder of Penn, news of Penn, Penn Wharton…on facebook to educate other Chinese that it is an Ivy (and let others know it isn’t Penn State) because his kid goes to Penn. I like Penn and Cornell as well, for these two are bigger and with many talented kids. I am not sure what schools my kid will like at this point, we are still exploring and to decide which ones to visit.</p>