Costs are a joke

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Gee how is that possible? This greedy country provided this new immigrant a free/low-cost education? Do you think our kids could get that by asking to immigrate somewhere else and have that country provide cheap/free education? </p>

<p>Is this student a senior? did she say that she came here 6 years ago?</p>

<p>I am a senior at UCSD and they waived my tuition fees because my income is 0 (and my parents have both passed away, but I don’t know if this played a role). To me education should be free, I am used to that from Europe, so it’s not weird that I don’t have to shed 30’000$ a year to get a degree (if I had to pay that, I wouldn’t get a degree and simply do something else with my life, or study somewhere where it’s free). </p>

<p>The fact that I am getting my tuition waived doesn’t mean I can’t say negative things about the US, that’s an irrelevant argument for you to even bring up. So because I get my tuition waived I should be forever grateful and ignore all the facts I have learned over the years? Yes I am glad I can get a degree here, but to me education should never be unattainable due to costs, so I don’t feel bad that I got my tuition waived. I don’t feel that I am taking advantage because I am a permanent resident which means I qualify to get these benefits. </p>

<p>Sociology at UCSD opened my eyes about a lot of what is going in the country and the often negative influence the US has on the rest of the world. I just don’t feel happy living here and decided to apply to grad school in Canada, where I got accepted. I don’t think this makes me a bad person. I spent a lot of money in the US and I have contributed to the economy too, I have paid taxes, so it’s fair in my opinion. </p>

<p>You can keep picking on me and bring up arguments that are mostly irrelevant, but the facts I brought up make sense and many people have agreed with them. Wether my delivery of these facts is “offensive” or I get my tuition waived doesn’t mean I don’t have a point. Lets just agree to disagree here ok, because this debate could go on and I have to study for finals haha.</p>

<p>First of all, I am very sorry to hear that both of your parents have passed. That is quite a loss for a young person.</p>

<p>Yes, the fact that your parents have passed is why you have a 0 EFC.</p>

<p>That said, I think you need to tone down your “America is greedy” when you got so much aid here. It doesn’t matter that you think college should be free, it isn’t. </p>

<p>And, again…about you’re “used to it in Europe”, you need to realize that not everyone who wants to go to college in Europe gets to go. So providing free tuition to some of the lucky ones is not providing free college for all.</p>

<p>Thank you :)</p>

<p>Actually, I’m sorry I generalized about free education in Europe. I should just talk about Switzerland since I am from there. Anyone in Switzerland can get an education if they choose to, it’s literally like 1000$ a year for the tuition fees at a university. And if your parents have a low income, you get free money on top of it (especially if you have to move away, because that will help with rent). </p>

<p>However, they are able to help so much because the majority of people don’t get a higher education in Switzerland. This is because most jobs pay very well so even if you work at the post office you make a good living (even relative to the costs). </p>

<p>I know I am very negative about the US, and sometimes I wish I didn’t know all the things I have learned in school. Many of my fellow sociology classmates say that it’s depressing to take sociology classes because you hear so much of the negative stuff (not just about the US of course), but I think it’s worst for me because I come from such a blessed country. I do agree that things are a lot harder to manage in the US because of its size and its diversity, but efforts could still be made.</p>

<p>Anyway, I appreciate people’s comments here, and I hope we can all leave in good terms :)</p>

<p>Yes…and I ask that you keep the title of this thread in mind. It was “Financial aid is a joke,” yet you were able to come to this country, you were welcomed, and given a first class education with great financial aid. </p>

<p>That wouldn’t have happened just anywhere.</p>

<p>now, get back to studying! Winter finals are upon you.</p>

<p>It’s discouraging to see that someone could be so unappreciative of such generosity.</p>

<p>I’m an American and strongly agree with gaiou. And you can see what he’s talking about just by these forums. America is full of arrogant people who are close minded. I am an American and would love to leave America. I’ve traveled all over Europe and you can see the difference in attitudes immediately. You are just proving his point by acting the way that you are</p>

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<p>Usually the attitude of the spoiled.</p>

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<p>Find the nearest airport and enjoy your trip.</p>

<p>“I’m an American and strongly agree with gaiou. And you can see what he’s talking about just by these forums. America is full of arrogant people who are close minded. I am an American and would love to leave America. I’ve traveled all over Europe and you can see the difference in attitudes immediately. You are just proving his point by acting the way that you are”</p>

<p>Thank you :slight_smile: I very much agree with that. The attitude is completely different in Europe. </p>

<p>“Usually the attitude of the spoiled.”
“Find the nearest airport and enjoy your trip”</p>

<p>What a nice attitude you have there lol .
You obviously don’t know me, because I’m about as far from spoiled as it gets, even though I know I have had opportunities that people from poorer countries haven’t gotten.<br>
I grew up poor, lost both my parents, had to go from one home to another, got practically kicked out of “home” when I was 19, got married to someone who ended up betraying me and stealing from me and finally decided to go back to school to better my life and learn about people because that’s my passion. But yeah, I’m spoiled lol.</p>

<p>Maybe Skater94 feels the same way because he has traveled and seen the difference in attitude in other countries.</p>

<p>“It’s discouraging to see that someone could be so unappreciative of such generosity”</p>

<p>I appreciate being able to get a degree here, but it was not given to me. I still pay for school even though my tuition fees have been waived, there are other expenses. I also put a lot of work into my studies and I have contributed to research at UCSD. I agree that the state of California has a great program for people under a certain income level, but that has nothing to do with my views of the US as a whole.</p>

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<p>You have the attitude of the spoiled. Grow up poor in a third-world country. Maybe you can better appreciate this country.</p>

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<p>You think that you’re the only person that’s grown up poor without parents? You’ve been given a free education. The least you can be is grateful.</p>

<p>“You have the attitude of the spoiled. Grow up poor in a third-world country. Maybe you can better appreciate this country”</p>

<p>LOL. Of course, if you want to compare the US to a third world country, it’s probably better (even though that may be debatable in some cases). If people have to have grown up in a third world country to appreciate it here, that say a lot about the US. Thanks for proving my point.</p>

<p>“You think that you’re the only person that’s grown up poor without parents? You’ve been given a free education. The least you can be is grateful.”</p>

<p>No I don’t think I am the only one, I never said that. I am grateful to have been given the opportunity to get a degree. But because I have been given “free” education, does that mean I can’t point out any of the flaws of this country? Typical American attitude. LOL</p>

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<p>Class transcends origin.</p>

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<p>I was pointing out your ingratitude and classlessness.</p>

<p>You can insult me all you want. As I said earlier I don’t get offended easily. Especially not when it comes from someone with your attitude.</p>

<p>Also, whether I’m appreciative of my education, whether I’m offensive etc. or not doesn’t mean I don’t have a point. It’s not relevant to the debate.</p>

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<p>You can insult me all you want. Especially not when it comes from someone with your attitude.</p>

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<p>It shows your hypocrisy.</p>

<p>I thought I knew everything when I was 26, too.</p>

<p>Lol you may want to look up that word then.</p>

<p>I don’t pretend to know everything, I was just pointing out facts. Geez</p>

<p>Raising kids through adulthood tends to impose realistic thinking.</p>