Could I get into Brown?

<p>I have asked about my chances before but now I am more concerned with Brown. I visited the school and loved it, but I know it ias a reach. I am also applying to Princeton ED as a legacy, so is there any chance I could get into Brown but rejected by Princeton?</p>

<p>My stats: </p>

<p>Rank: about the top 12% of a competitive catholic school in Chicago (My class rank will probably get higher after my 1st semester)</p>

<p>Act: 34, but only an 9 in writing </p>

<p>SAT II: 710 U.S. history; 700 Math IC; 680 Literature ( I am taking Math II and Lit again in October)</p>

<p>I am taking the hardest schedule possible in my school, and I will graduate with 12 honors/ 8 AP courses (the only regular class I have taken is religion)
My APs so far: English:4, World Hist: 4, U.S. History.</p>

<p>My E.C.s are fairly typical: 4 years baseball and football (co-captain), with 2 years varsity in each. 4 years various student council positions, Big Brother/ Big sister program, Writing for the literary magazine, etc.</p>

<p>Volunteering: I do most of my volunteer work through my peer ministry group ( I am now a leader), which includes two missionary trips and other soup kitchen-type catholic relief projects. Also a tutor in Chemistry and French. </p>

<p>Honors: Standard Recognition for a student of my type, but also one of three students from my high school selected to Illinois boys state, along with perfect attendance throughout h.s. </p>

<p>So far my essays look great as well as my teacher recs, but its hard to tell. </p>

<p>Should I apply to Brown?</p>

<p>Of course there is a chance you could be accepted to Brown and rejected by Princeton. If you like Brown there is no reason not to apply there. 34 is a very, very good ACT score. I know things have gotten tighter in the last two years ... but my daughter is a sophomore at Brown and she had a 30. (And two other Ivies turned her down.)</p>

<p>sorry my nosing, but what where her two other ivies?</p>

<p>Yale and Penn. I think it was obvious from her application that Brown would be her first choice. The exact field of study she wants -- only at Brown. Two summers of courses at Brown. Recommendations from Brown instructors. We preferred to think of Y & P as having their noses out of joint by all this -- "just go to Brown, then ... sniff" :) No way of knowing, though, I realize.</p>

<p>I've certainly heard of folks getting into Penn and not Brown. I don't know about those making Yale but not Brown offhand, but they probably exist.</p>

<p>Once an applicant meets the academic standards of an Ivy, I think more comes into play in the admission decisions than simply a comparison of composite scores. Test scores aren't exact, so I don't know that fine distinctions are drawn within the top couple percentiles.</p>

<p>(Brown is one of those places that says it looks at subscores on the ACT, also -- the average for the scores related to dd's field in any way was 33; the math and science were just high enough not to be disqualifying -- my speculation, of course!)</p>

<p>I definitely know of folks who got into Yale and not Brown (or were waitlisted at Brown after being admitted by Yale EA, etc).</p>

<p>Anyway, you certainly have a shot. Your legacy and early app at Princeton will both certainly help you there, but it's all pretty much up in the air once you're in a reasonable range with scores and class rank (which, obviously, you are). At this point it's all about the personal stuff -- how well do you portray yourself, and how well do you fit in with what the particular school is looking for in this particular year?</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Did you get in?</p>

<p>no and no, went to William and Mary.</p>