<p>I have read several different interpretations of Penn's standardized test score policy. It says on the website that they expect an applicant to submit their entire testing history. I assumed that meant everything (ACTs, SATs, SAT IIs), but I have read that some people interpret it to mean all of one particular test (so all ACTs or All SATs) you've ever taken. Could someone who has applied shed some light on this for me? I don't want to accidentally do something dishonest. </p>
<p>In an ideal world, I would like to submit just my ACT full profile and then my SAT IIs. I took the SAT once and let's just say it was not my finest hour in comparison to my ACT scores.</p>
<p>If you are submitting ACTs you are expected to submit all scores from all sittings. If you submit SATs you are expected to submit all scores from all sittings as well as all subject test scores from all sittings. When I spoke to an admissions officer on behalf of a student I worked with, this is what I was told. If you took both, and submit both, all scores have to be reported. They believe this discourages students from sitting too often. Not sure this works but it’s their policy…</p>
<p>@stcoprmater thank you! Do you think I could just submit my SAT subject tests?</p>
<p>Technically I suppose you could argue that if you’ve submitted ALL your SAT2 scores and ALL your ACT scores but NONE of your SAT scores that you are in compliance because you’ve submitted all scores for each test. That’s one way to read the policy and that’s if you claim that the SAT and the SAT2 are different tests. Penn takes a different view - but there’s no way that admissions would KNOW you’d not taken the SAT. They might SUSPECT you took it (because of National Merit Commended/Semi-Finalist Status) or KNOW you took it (finalist status). Certainly I have worked with students who took the ACT and the SAT2s without taking the SATs themselves, so there’s that. The thing is, Penn really will just consider your strongest scores. So yes, you <em>could</em> just submit your subject tests - and if your SAT scores are really far below the 25% I can understand why you might want to do that - but I don’t think submitting those scores would be the deal breaker you think it would be. </p>
<p>@plmdin thank you so much! very helpful response. I think you are probably right about them not being the deal breaker I suspect, especially since they aren’t particularly relevant to my intended major. I am just paranoid about accidentally doing something that could be viewed as dishonest and ruining any shot I may have.</p>
<p>Submit everything because that’s what Penn expects - and you now KNOW that that is what they expect. If you are really concerned about the SAT score being low just ask your gc to make some sort of explanation or comment in your report. </p>
<p>If you are submitting the ACT, CAS does not require any subject tests. If they are above 750 send them on but if you submit ACTs, subject tests are gravy and should only enhance your app. There was an article in the Dartmouth paper some time ago when score choice was introduced intimating that colleges can find out if you did not submit all scores. While it is possible, I think there would have to be some red flag in the app to cause an admissions officer to take the time to make that call. That said, everything on your app should be on the up and up on the off chance…</p>