<p>Okay, will do!</p>
<p>Hey jonathan, prof. Soria did reply to me today, unfortunately in the negative. Best of luck to you though.</p>
<p>thanks for the update. sorry to hear about that though</p>
<p>jonathan: As I just told thestudent via PM. If you are concerned about a negative response, wait it out and count on either Weinschenk overloading some students or see how many Soria yields among the 200 invitations. If his class has space left, he will allow those w/o an invitation to get in if they previously expressed interest. It’s possible there may be higher than normal amount of students w/AP credit this year. He may, thus be counting on a larger yield, so just see what happens. Give it till registration time for enrollment (wait until Monday or Tuesday) registration. If Soria has many spots left, contact him or meet him again and ask for in. If denied then (doubt it), e-mail Weinschenk (or ask Soria if there is anyway to get into Weinschenk, Soria may actually put in a word to W). If denied by both, proceed to join gen. chem 
as there should still be space left (you have like 1.5 weeks to get the situation straight. This encompasses add/drop/swap so you’ll get in somewhere) and prof. doesn’t matter because class is stupid and lecturing still good (yes, this is one of the few cases where a class is stupid but the lecturing is good) among all 3.</p>
<p>Dr. Soria just sent me the invitation via email attachment. His email didnt really make much sense, but im thinking he wants me to read and reply whether or not i want i want to be considered for acceptance into the course.</p>
<p>Maybe he had some magical list of 200 people that became 1st come1st serve in terms of whose AP credits get credit gets to him first. And some were already slated to get an invite, but he sent some really late. He said the system is all screwy this year because the admissions office slipped. Also, it may be easier for them to get AP scores of those who took it as a senior or something. I have no idea, but the situation sounds a mess this year. </p>
<p>Beginning to think Emory enrolled more than expected again (though I thought it was aiming for a class of only like 1325)</p>
<p>i took ap chem as a senior and got a 4 so maybe they had trouble matching senior chem aps with chem invitations? anyway, in his email he asked me to find an invitation to orgo chem, but the invitation was already attached to the email so i was a little confused. i just followed the attached invitation`s instructions and told him i still would like to be considered to take it freshman year, so hopefully that works out.</p>
<p>i just received another email and i got a spot, but he mentions two different orgo labs. theres chem-221L which is a 1 credit course on tuesday 6-9 pm while chem-226L is a 2 credit course that meets tuesday and thursday from 9:30 am to 12:30 am. Is one better than the other? Thanks</p>
<p>226-L is better than 221L. It’s run by Jose, the professor, himself (having labs supervised by the lecture prof. himself is way better than having an arbitrary director and having the lab actually taught by a grad. student/TA). It is a lot more chill, laid back, and inquiry-driven. Takes the edge off of being in his lecture and you get more contact time w/him.</p>
<p>so right now i still have a few questions left. people have been advising me to move physics to sophomore year since right now if i dont ill have bio, phys, and orgo all spring of freshman year. im just wondering first of all is that too heavy for a freshman spring? if so, if i drop physics out i could then take econ 112 in spring which also leaves me with a free slot in fall. would it be better to take an advanced language (spanish advanced 221 for me), a math like stat or something, or get an easy GER out of the way.</p>
<p>Yeah, perhaps drop physics if you don’t think you can handle it (a surprising amount of frosh can can handle 3 lab sciences or two lab sciences and intense math, but it can become beastly second semester especially since Jose ramps it up some). The language requirement sounds good (that is a GER, probably won’t be too hard either and will add nice diversity to your schedule). And yes, 112 sounds good for spring.</p>
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<p>Not at all if you already have some background these subject areas and can study efficiently. In fact your new proposed schedule looks almost like my 2nd semester of freshmen year (i had orgo w/ 222L, biol 142, phys 152, multivariable, and econ 101) and i ended up doing fine with only an A- in biol and As in the rest. I was a bit busier than the average Emory student but still had a life outside of academics (mostly on the weekends), plus i was also doing some hospital volunteering. So definitely go for it if you can handle it, so you would have 222 w/ lab, biol, physics, econ 112, and for the last class i’d take the math class first as it help you get in the right subject set for physics and econ, as opposed to the spanish class since it’s better to take ur 2 semesters of foreign language in sequence (that is, fall+spring instead of spring than fall with a summer in between).</p>
<p>The person may not have to take 2 semesters though. They may have AP credit, in which case they can take 1. It wouldn’t hurt to take Spanish if that is the case. Also, don’t get hopes up too much lol. It’ll still be difficult for most to manage A/A- in all of those especially w/Soria 2nd semester (that is the questionable one unless you are particularly bad at bio, if you are to make below an A grade, it’ll be in 222-Z). Physics 152 at Emory is joke"ish" to most w/experience though. Biology is always doable. Collegestu is just lucky he was in W’s class second semester (I think. Either way, I detect it wasn’t Jose lol) 
. Seems W has softened up in 222 eversince he had the baby (I mean, really softened up but w/o being anywhere near as soft as others). W for 221 however is very…interesting, though still doable (all his class is about is hitting high 80s to flat 90 on each exam, and you’re guaranteed A/A-. If you study well, it’s doable. A couple of tough questions at the end, but many are far easier than they look. And harder questions weigh less in his class as opposed to significantly more).</p>
<p>yeah i didnt get ap credit for foreign language… but i looked at the course schedule and it seems like Advanced Spanish 212 doesnt have a second part in the spring. For example theres intermediate spanish I and intermediate spanish II, but theres only 1 advanced spanish according to the 2010-2011 course catalog. My plan was to take it in the fall when my spanish is still kind of fresh and then finish the spanish credit in summer classes with a more specific focus like reading and writing in spanish. If I do end up taking a math, i do get ap calc ab credit so what would be the suggested math course to take? thanks again!</p>
<p>112-Z. I believe the teachers (try to get Garibaldi) are better than those in regular 112. Yeah, my understanding is that many of the language classes beyond 100 are not connected or are only vaguely connected.</p>
<p>*Never mind, he isn’t teaching. Either way, try to get somebody teaching 112-Z anyway.</p>
<p>Just wanted to give an update on this situation. Apparently Dr. Soria sent over 200 invitations prior to my email of interest, and a couple of days after he informed me in the negative, ended up extending an invitation to me as well, saying that he has done this to several other students who were in similar situations as I was (I’d be willing to guess he had us in mind, jonathan!) And today I received information of my spot in the lecture class. </p>
<p>On the topic of math, what course is left after using both calc ab and bc credit? Is it he multivariable? Or should I not do that much skipping and still take calc II?</p>
<p>Naw, Calc. 1 and 2 at Emory are rather useless if you have credit (I’m assuming BC does lots of Series and polar coordinates. I didn’t take it so I don’t know). There are 7 spots left in multivariate calc., I say take one (do not go for Brussels unless you are strong in physics. I know one poster/user here who is so I recommended them to take that spot as they are a prospective dual Emory/Tech degree student. It’ll give them good pre-engineering math background that other Emory calc. classes may not offer). If you want something different, maybe Diff. Eq will open up.</p>
<p>Wow thestudent, I’m beginning to think that…regardless of how y’alls SAT range comes out (these are quite useless anyway, they mean nothing once you get to an elite school of sorts), class of 2015 seems as if it will have a really talented class of science majors (I thought 2014 was talented). Seriously, I bet 250 people qualify for his class this year and that would be like half of gen. chem’s student body. Seems like it would destroy any chance of scaling in somebody like Morkin’s class. Hopefully 60-70 will defect to Soria’s class lol. Even any sophomores taking gen. chem may have a run for their money 
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<p>Hey. So I just went through some of the advisory sessions and talked to some professors and for the most part they have told me not to take orgo freshman year if im not planning on majoring in chemistry. Any thoughts bernie or collegestu? Im kind of getting psyched out of taking orgo now…I mean every student Ive talked with that has already been through pre med tract has told me to go orgo freshman year, but professors and a couple of student advisors have said dont so im not too sure anymore. Also, the premed advisory people told us today that upper level chem courses dont really make students more competitive. is that really true? Thanks</p>
<p>Screw them (most of them have given really bad/lame advice in the past). Orgo. is just a good experience. Screw the damned med. school application. We have told you reasons it’ll make you more competitive for w/e, and it is not necessarily about only taking upperlevels. Seriously think about it. Great class, great peers, great mentor. You want to give it up to some professors and students encouraging you to not stand out because “it doesn’t make you more competitive”. I assure you it does, past successes among those who have taken it or started in higher level courses has shown this. They disproportionately do well. Come on man. Take the class b/c your interested. It is an experience that inclines high caliber students toward future success at Emory and wherever else. Don’t think in the short-term, think of some possible longterm benefits</p>
<p>I’m gonna go w/ bernie12 on this one. Gen chem will seem highly repetitive and boring if you already took AP and since you have the credit, you already have a solid foundation in it. Orgo is a completely different type of class than gen chem so you’ll be exposed to something new, not to mention getting used to college rigor sooner on (which like bernie12 said, will definitely help you in the long run). Also, upper level chem classes DO help you on your med school application if you’re applying higher ranked med schools, and the professors were probably talking about med school in general (including crappy state schools and osteopathic ones). Not to mention that it may actually be easier to get an A in classes like inorganic chem than gen chem due to much more generous curving. Also, taking an easy courseload may serve as a disadvantage to you on the mcat; chances are you’ll forget most of the material in a day, are not used to anything about the subject beyond very basic concepts (and the mcat will test beyond that), and requires relearning more material. Most professors, PACE leaders, or premeds themselves, will advise premeds to take it easy and maintain a good GPA (which is why they’re trying to convince you not to take orgo frosh yr), but in reality that rarely happens in the long run (by the end of junior year) w/ people trying to go to the easiest schedule w/ the easiest profs since a semester w/ hard classes will be inevitable and take you by surprise eventually, and its those same people that often can’t manage to break a 30 on the mcat (the minimum score needed to put u in the game for med school apps). So do yourself a favor try to get into either chem 221Z w/ soria or chem 221 w/ weinschenk (the other 221 profs aren’t nearly as good), and you’ll be happy later on that you did.</p>