<p>If I have taken one semester of Advanced Chemistry with lab, one semester of Biochemistry with lab, as well as two semesters of Organic Chemistry coureses with two Organic Chemistry labs, do you think I have fulfilled all the chemistry-related requirement as far as the midical school admission is concerned?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Edit: My confusion is this: Is Biochemistry considered as a Chemistry course or a Biology course? If it is considered as a Chemistry course, is it a General Chemistry course or an Organic Chemistry course?</p>
<p>In my Freshmen year, based on the 5 score on my AP Chemistry test, my college placed me into a one-semester-only Accelerated/Advanced General Chemistry course. I always thought the Biochemistry course would be my second semester of (General) Chemistry course. But now, having completed all my prereq (Junior year), I am not so sure any more.</p>
<p>This Biochemistry course is listed under both Molecular Biophysics and Biochemistry Department and Molecular Cellular and Developmental Biology Department. Based on this information, can we tell that this is a Chemistry course or a Biology course?</p>
<p>Also, I am considering to take a lab called “Laboratory in Nucleic Acid”, which is listed under Molecular Cellular and Developmental Biology Department. Is this considered as a biology lab then?</p>
<p>The reason why I am so confused about this issue is that the premed advisors at my school say it differently in their “redbook”, which is a guidebook for premed students.</p>
<p>I extract the relevant part from that book, with a brief note to explain the courses.</p>
<p>I find that the following statement from that book is confusing:</p>
<p>"
CHEMISTRY (INORGANIC)
…, or 118a and 252b or one term of biochemistry."</p>
<p>In the last paragraph I quoted below, it seems to imply that if you take the orgo in the freshmen year, you only need to take Biochemistry, completely skip the general chemistry.</p>
<p>Brief note: course numbers/names:</p>
<p>112a and 113b, as well as 114a and 115b, are general chemistry.
118a: advanced general chemistry.
252b: inorganic chemistry.
biochemistry (MB&B 200 or MB&B 300, but its course number is not shown below)
124a, 125b and 220a, 221b are orgo.</p>
<p>The following is a direct quote from the “redbook”:</p>
<p>CHEMISTRY (INORGANIC)
Lecture One year (Chem 112a and 113b; 114a and 115b; or 118a and 252b or one term of biochemistry) </p>
<p> If during your freshman year you complete Chem 124a amd 125b or 220a-221b and labs and receive two acceleration credits to fulfill
general chemistry, you will usually only need an additional term of biochemistry with laboratory.</p>
<p>Generally crosslisted courses allow you to sign up under either Course registration number, thus making that the department which is awarding the credit. That course listing is how it will show up on your transcript.</p>
<p>Example:
SOCI 217. Nationality and Race Relations (ETHN 217, ANTH 217) (3 cr)
Prereq: 3 hrs sociology or related social sciences.
Concepts of race and patterns of race distribution. Impact of
European expansion on ethnic relations. Types of ethnic social
systems. Patterns of ethnic social interaction. Problems of minorities.
Types of ethnic policies.</p>
<p>This is a cross listed course at my alma mater - main listing is under Sociology, usually taught by Sociology faculty, but is also cross listed as Ethnic Studies and Anthropology courses. If you were an Anthro major, you’d sign up for it under the ANTH 217 listing, and it would count towards your required number of Anthro hours for the major. I was a sociology major so I signed up for the SOCI listing. When it appeared on my transcript, the course was labeled as SOCI 217, but it would have said ANTH 217 for anyone who signed up for it under that designation…</p>
<p>Some of our courses are indeed crosslisted. For example, the biochemistry course is listed under both Molecular and Cell Development Department and Biophysics and Biochemistry Department. I do not remember that when we sign up for a course, we have an options to choose which department though.</p>
<p>You have raised a very good question. I will try to find out whether we can choose the department name when we sign up a course at my school.</p>
<p>Recently, it appears to me that there are many departments which are like hybrid departments. For example, is biochemistry a chemistry department or a biology department? Also, is biomedical engineering an engineering department? (I heard it is partly a electrical/mechanical/chemical engineering department, and partly a biological/biophysics department.) For the purpose of medical school applications, it is sometimes difficult to tell which course is which, even when we know which course is listed under which department.</p>
<p>Another confusion is whether the biostatistics course is a math course or a biology course. This course is usually jointed offered by the statistics and biology departments. Sometimes some professors who jointly teach the course may even from the medical school, neither from the statistics department nor from the biology department. It is sometimes not easy to tell the department of a professor, as he may be jointly hired by two departments. What a mess!</p>
<p>quick question:
is biostatistics at berkeley (classified as a Public Health course) counted as fulfilling the stats requirement?</p>
<p>course desc:</p>
<p>Public Health (PB HLTH) 142
Introduction to Probability and Statistics in Biology and Public Health
(4 units) </p>
<p>Course Format: 3 hours of lecture & 2 hours of discussion per week.
Prerequisites: High school algebra. </p>
<p>Descriptive statistics, probability, probability distributions, point and interval estimation, hypothesis testing, chi-square, correlation and regression with biomedical applications. (Fall) Selvin</p>
<p>Hmm - that might be risky. It really depends on if the course it more geared towards teaching you the mathematics of statistics or the public health side of statistics. If its the former, then you can list it as BCPM on your application, but you risk the reviewer kicking it back down to “Health Sciences” due to the Public Health title of the course.</p>
<p>All the biostats courses (at least at the schools I’ve attended) were grad level courses under the public health or health sciene dept. The ones I’ve since required you taking intro to stats before taking biostats. Some medical schools incorporate a short-course biostats into their curriculum. </p>
<p>I would list it as a math class, but it might be changed by the reviewer. I would argue it, if it was changed.</p>
<p>I think it’d be difficult to successfully argue this, as I had several statistics classes undone because they weren’t in an official department.</p>
<p>AMCAS heavily emphasizes department rather than courses.</p>
<p>How about taking an introductory statistics course jointly offered by the statistics department (the couse name is STATS nnn) and the biology department (the course name is BIO nnn). When I register the course, I have the option of selecting either the statistics department or the biology department. Is such a course a math course as far as the medical school admission is concerned?</p>
<p>I’m will be a freshman this coming fall and I was wondering if my schedule sounds advisable/doable:</p>
<p>Freshman: Calc I+Chem I w/lab+ Physics I w/lab + 3.5 credits left… maybe English for 3?
Spring: Calc II+ Chem II w/lab+ Physics II w/lab + 3.5 credits left… finish English req?</p>
<p>I have credits for AP Bio which most do during Freshman year… I took both Physics and Calculus this yr which is part of the reason I want to do them freshman yr as I have some foundation still fresh… Also first semester is P/F… Also I plan on being a bio major and thus bio courses are taken starting sophmore yr onwards…
What do you guys think?</p>
<p>Is it important to adcoms to see the one year of English classes on the application, or is it okay to push them back to senior year after applying? D will have all BCPM courses completed by end of Junior year, including the extra year of required bio for Texas, and would probably take MCAT’s in April. Will not having the English hurt either on MCAT’s or for admissions? Thanks.</p>
<p>Shouldn’t be a problem. When she does apply, IIRC, there is an option on the AMCAS to input anticipated coursework, so it’d be wise to put in the english courses she plans on taking in, with that label. I don’t know about the Texas application service, but I imagine there’s something similar, and if not, I don’t think it will be that big of deal. She can always mention it during interviews and in update letters.</p>