Crazy Confidential Kids or...not?

<p>This is taken from the 2006 US News college rankings:</p>

<p>Top 10 percent of high school class: 63%
Top 25 percent of high school class: 91%
Top 50 percent of high school class: 99%
Average high school GPA: 3.6
SAT I scores (25/75 percentile):
Verbal: 610 – 700
Math: 610 – 710
Combined: 1220 – 1410
ACT scores (25/75 percentile):
Composite: 27 – 31</p>

<p>Princeton Review:</p>

<p>Basis for candidate selection
Very Important Factors:
Secondary school record
Standardized test scores
Important Factors:
Class rank
Recommendations
Essays
Character/personal qualities
Extracurricular activities
Talent/ability</p>

<p>Freshman Admission Statistics
Total applicants who are accepted: 35%
Total of accepted students who enroll: 38%</p>

<p>The average GPA is probably a lot higher than what many people have (my guess) due to the competitive nature of Stern. A GPA 25-75 percentile range would be a lot more accurate.</p>

<p>From what I've heard.. if you have a 3.3 or higher, 1300+ on the SATs (CR+M), you have a decent shot at CAS.</p>

<p>Princeton Review isn't always very accurate. A 35% acceptance rate isn't what NYU says. Just a warning not to always trust them..3.3 is pretty low. I'd say more 3.5, 3.6. Maybe 3.3 for Tisch.</p>

<p>Don't believe Princeton Review. They are notoriously inaccurate. NYU's own website tells you that the acceptance rate is 29.7%.</p>

<p>nhs, 3.3 is low. For ANY NYU college. Most accepted students have an A/A- average.</p>

<p>Heat, you're mistaken if you think Tisch's gpa's are low. I'm in CAS and I can tell you that for the past three years (according to what we heard at Orientation and what Tisch kids have been told at auditions), their academic stats have been second only to Stern applicants. Don't make the mistake in believing Tischies are only talented and not smart.</p>

<p>Interesting. Good to know. I'm just speaking from my own knowledge of students from my school that were accepted there. Their academic stats were slightly lower but their talent on stage was superior.</p>

<p>look, they say that the average GPA is 3.6, For those of you who did not take statistics, this means that 50% of the students at NYU have a higher GPA and 50% have a lower GPA. You most also see, that any GPA 3.3 or higher is really strong, especially if you have taken high level classes. (Remember C is average) And they have a middle 50% SAT scores are 1220 – 1410 then people with below 1200 get in. You all are just being condescending to make such overachieving assumptions. NYU is a very selective school with very smart talented students. However, NYU is able to see that only a small percentage of people have 4.0 and perfect scores. If it wanted only “perfect” students they could become Williams or Amherst, but luckily for me and you their not.</p>

<p>I got in with 3.2 and 1250 SATs</p>

<p>Cowfun, the point you're missing is that 3.6 is an average for the entire freshman class at NYU. The stats for ALL acceptees, across the board, are not uniform. That's no secret. Also, you might want to look at this example which was given at an information session when the subject of average GPAs came up: </p>

<p>-five students with the following GPAs: 3.3, 3.4, 3.8, 3.9, 3.9. Average GPA is 3.6. So your 50% higher and 50% lower is inaccurate. You're thinking of a median number, not an average. Not the same thing.</p>

<p>Also, the middle 50% of SAT scores is 1310-1450, not 1220 to 1410.</p>

<p>cowfun, i dont take statistics and i know the difference between a mean and a median...</p>

<p>I was not trying to be harsh, just showing the facts. </p>

<p>The facts say that even with my stats, NYU was not a stretch for me or anyone else with my GPA or scores. This does not undermine anybody’s acceptance. </p>

<p>If we are going to go into statistical detail, 3.6 as an average could also mean that there are very few people with HIGH SAT scores! Of coarse the admission office will want to say that they have high states, it make them look better, and I doubt people with low SATs go about bragging about them to their classmates. I just wanted to make it clear that NYU, while highly selective, is not impossible to get into. </p>

<p>I am speaking of the mean, not the medium. In the example matth provided, the medium would be 3.4, and just as useful as the mean. </p>

<p>The Average SAT is 1318 according to Princeton review.</p>

<p>I will just say that if you want to know you chances at NYU, look on Princeton review, US news report and the NYU site, rather then posting your stats for a bunch of other NYU hopefuls with as much insight into the admissions office as you.</p>

<p><a href="http://admissions.nyu.edu/fast_facts/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissions.nyu.edu/fast_facts/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Admissions Statistics
Number of Applications: 33,721
Percent Offered Admission: 29.7%
Number of Early Decision Applications: 3,275
Early Decision % of Class: 29.3%
Number of New Freshmen: 4,250</p>

<p>Academic Statistics (Four-year Programs)
Average High School GPA: 3.63
SAT Score Range (middle 50%): 1310 – 1440
Ranked in Top 10% of High School Class: 71.9% </p>

<p>Standards are rising, apparently.</p>

<p>cowfun,</p>

<p>median-
The middle value in a distribution, above and below which lie an equal number of values. </p>

<p>mean-
The average value of a set of numbers</p>

<p>Not sure how you're using the word <em>medium</em> but it's not the right one. The MEDIAN in my example is 3.8, not 3.4.</p>

<p>Average GPAs and SAT scores are not necessarily related, stats-wise or otherwise. They are not being measured in conjunction with one another so your contention about 'statistical detail' doesnt' make sense.</p>

<p>No one said NYU was impossible to get into but any school with a 29% acceptance rate is considered selective. Various individual programs at NYU are more selective than others, so there will always be some programs which will admit students with lower stats. There will also be the random acceptances into even the most selective programs with lower stats but that will be the rarity in the big scheme of things so people need to be told realistically what the odds are. It isn't helpful to tell someone that just because you got in with a 3.2, that it will be easy for someone else. 3.2 is low for NYU. You may have had mitigating factors in your app which permitted them to offer you admission, or perhaps the program you were interested in did not have a selective group of E.D. applicants. There could be many factors. That doesn't mean that it will be just as easy for someone else who may be applying to a different program than you did, or who is applying R.D. The facts should always be told straightforwardly, and people encouraged to apply, as long as they know the probabilities.</p>

<p>Mean or median.. I still think a better way to measure gpa would be for us to be provided with the middle 50 percent quartiles. i think both of you illustrated how misleading and or inaccurate basing admissions on just the mean or just the median is.</p>

<p>from what i understand, the mean especially isn't very accurate in grauging competitiveness. the reason can be seen in matth's previous posts.</p>

<p>Cowfun, regarding your acceptance with a 3.2 and 1250 (since it seems pretty odd for a normal person applying to CAS or Stern), I have a few questions:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>What NYU school did you apply to? Did you apply to one of the easier schools like Steinhardt? Were you GSPed? Are you a Tisch guy with a lot of talent?</p></li>
<li><p>Do you have athletic talent and were you recruited to play a sport?</p></li>
<li><p>Do you have any other hook, like legacy status or are you a URM?</p></li>
</ol>

<p>-I will be studding studio art at Steinhardt, it is a small program and I have no idea how selective it is, but I really got in, not GSP.
-I was recruited for swimming but I am no swimming star by any means
-no legacy, but I come from a competitive public school, all 5 people I know applied got in with 3.4 or lower and the one girl who got GSPed from CAS with a 3.8. </p>

<p>I am not saying that it is easy for anyone, just that it all depends and that no one but the admissions office will be able to tell an individual whether or not they would get in. </p>

<p>I'm a girl</p>