Crazy year for UC admissions/rejections

<p>Hey Shrinkrap :)</p>

<p>Sadly I couldn't make it to the overnight (I visited a few weeks later). I would've liked to have met your D. </p>

<p>Is she still considering Mills?</p>

<p>^Afraid not.</p>

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Crazy year for UC admissions/rejections

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The same was said last year when my one D entered and 5 years ago when my other D entered. And it was true then as well. It's sometimes hard to make sense of it given people with higher numeric stats being rejected than some with lower stats. Certainly there are an increasing number of applicants every year to most UC campuses though with UCLA receiving more apps than any college in the country. They've increased some capacity though by building a new campus (UC Merced) and increasing the size of several other campuses. </p>

<p>As to why to apply to the UCs in general and to multiple campuses when they really want a particular one - "reach, match, and safety" says it all. Also, one might be offered a Regents (full ride) scholarship at one of the campuses but not another which might be a factor in where they go.</p>

<p>Very few UC's offer Regents as full ride (really full tuition) any more. For example, UCI offers $9000/yr. for Regents last year but only $2500 this year.</p>

<p>Yeah, I wanted to comment on that too. S1 was offered Regents Scholar for UCLA, but it was a very modest amount of money and no other real incentive. Believe me, a full-ride we would have noticed.</p>

<p>I guess Regents has changed then because a couple of years ago it was full tuition by at least a couple of UCs.</p>

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Why do people bother applying to any school that they don't like?

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I'm one of those kids who applied to a UC school I had no intention of going to. But at the time I applied, I didn't know I was going to be admitted to every reach school I applied to. So, I thought it would be better to apply to some UCs/publics, even if I didn't think I'd end up there, bc you never know what will happen if a big ole' scholarship offer comes your way. That's why most people are applying to more and more schools these days. Because college admissions are such a crapshoot, you could get admitted to every school you apply to, or only your safeties. It's better to have options than to have regrets about not applying to as many schools as you could have.</p>

<p>coolweather: I live in San Diego. I have friends admitted to SDSU every year. Though it is a decent state school, it's not even the most competitive in CA (that honor would go to Cal-Poly SLO), and it takes a pretty numerical approach to its admissions process due to the large numbers of applicants.</p>

<p>From the SDSU webpage:

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Applicants: 37,549 (15,499 male / 22,050 female)
Admitted: 16,484 (6,400 male / 10,084 female)
Admission rate: 44%

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<p>Unless applicants increased 2-fold in one year, I really doubt they received 61,000 applications.</p>

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For fall 2008, the average eligibility index of admitted freshmen who met the selective criteria was 4,182 (1,009 if based on ACT). The average high school grade point average was 3.77. The average SAT score was 1,165 on the Math and Critical Reading section; the average ACT composite score was 25.

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The avg. ACT of those who enrolled was a 22, and the avg. GPA a 3.44. They admit 44% </p>

<p>San</a> Diego State University Information, Academics, History, Financial Aid, Alumni, Campus, Students, Faculty, Address, Tuition, and Football - a StateUniversity.com profile</p>

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If you got into most of your reach schools, you severely misjudged your credentials :-) At least in my book reach schools should be those where you have less than 50% chance of getting in.</p>

<p>I agree that the the single application and relatively low cost applying makes people apply to a bunch. If it was just safety/match/reach, people would apply to <=4. That is certainly true in our case. D applied OOS to SB (safety), SD (match), LA (reach). She got admitted to SD yesterday, so the SB decisions tomorrow are a "don't care". However, when we were submitting the application, we checked Berk just for the heck of it. There is no way she will choose Berk over LA if admitted to both, but $60 is not much money for us so we just encouraged her to "check the box"</p>

<p>Nope, SDSU got over 61,000 applications for the Fall of 2008!</p>

<p>SDSU</a> Marketing & Communications - SDSU Receives 61,492 Applications for Fall 2008</p>

<p>Just so that students don't freak out: the 61,000 figure includes more than 11,000 transfer apps. The increases in the number of applicants at San Diego State were good, but not out of line with increases elsewhere, or out of line with past increases (have a look at the bar graph in ellemenope's link). It's also good to remember that increasing numbers of applications are likely "soft," caused by students applying to more schools. SDSU applicants . . . . relax.</p>

<p>My D was accepted at Irvine in January, and last week at UCSC and Davis, but rejected today at UCSB. Students she knows with higher GPA and test scores were rejected at Davis. There must be some rhyme or reason to all of the UC selections. And hardly anyone seems to be getting into SDSU! D got in there in December. The problem for us (and I'm sure many others), is that though she's a match at many schools, she wasn't sure of those - and in fact has been rejected by 2 (including UCSB). It's overwhelming to try and figure out the best way to approach applying to schools without going overboard!</p>

<p>Keep in mind that the student's choice of major could be a factor in admissions, as well as other factors about the students background and interests. To the admissions committee, "match" is about more than GPA and tests scores. </p>

<p>Congratulations on your daughter's admission to Irvine, UCSC & Davis! Sounds like she has at least 3 great schools to choose from.</p>

<p>I've heard some students got into UCSD and got rejected from UCSB. So my theory is that people who got in the UCs that use point system like UCSD and UCD might not get into UCs that use a little less rigid than the point system.</p>

<p>And there is a new twist. Somebody got into UCSD and not accepted to UCD, both use point system. At this point I'm start to scratch my head and I have to admit I'm running out of theory to postulate. :)</p>

<p>Keep in mind that the admissions aren't strictly based on GPA/SAT scores. Various points are awarded for other sometimes more subjective reasons. They also have a number of different people reading the apps and I imagine the decisions could vary a bit depending on who reads the the apps even if it's a consensus of two readers.</p>

<p>Columbia_Student- </p>

<p>My friend got into UCSD but not UCD and UCSB. Kinda kills all theories doesn't it?</p>

<p>Odd.</p>

<p>I dunno... UCSD, UCD and UCSB are not that far apart in test scoring or selectivity, but clearly UCSD is a <em>little</em> harder to get into.</p>

<p>I haven't seen anyone post acceptances to UCB or UCLA with rejections to any of those three. The order seems to be School/Midpoint SAT/% accepted: </p>

<p>UCB 1325/24%
UCLA 1295/26%
----- minor separation -----
UCSD 1250/49%
UCI 1210/60%
UCSB 1190/53%+ Cal Poly SLO (I just had to throw that in there :) )
UCD 1155/ 68%
UCSC 1145/80%
----- big separation ----
UCR 1040/83%
UCM: unpublished</p>

<p>It would be very intesting to see acceptances from the top 2 with rejections from the middle tier, or acceptance to middle tier and rejections from the bottom tier.</p>

<p>I was rejected from SDSU, but accepted to UCI, UCSB, UCSD, and UCD.</p>

<p>UCD and UCSD use the point system. SAT scores and GPA only count a fraction of what you can score. For example, UCSD gives 300 for houshold income less than $60K, 300 points for first generation, 300 for going to schools that are in the 4th and 5th quintile district. 250 points for coming from a single household. 300 points attending AVID program. That is a lot of 1550 points off from the total of 3200 of SAT. UCD follows the same pattern.</p>

<p>UCSD</a> Freshman Comprehensive Review Process (Dec 2004)</p>

<p>Freshmen:</a> Application Criteria for Selection Process</p>

<p>I agree with ucsd<em>ucla</em>dad. This same comment could be said in just about any year. S1 is a 4th year at CAL and S2 is a 1st year at UCD. The year that S1 applied to colleges was the only year the UCs could not accept everyone who qualified (UC</a> forced to reject qualified freshmen / Budget woes mean community colleges for some applicants)</p>

<p>In that year, my S1 and two friends who had a very similar profile to him, all applied to CAL, UCLA, and UCSD. Each of the boys was accepted to only one of the 3 schools and each one was accepted to a different one. Go figure.</p>